Abu Ghraib - Lets Protest this

[Epee_Pox]

Saw a guy in Vegas wearing this tee shirt the other day: "What happens in Gitmo, stays in Gitmo."

[Larrison]

Did they? Really? I assume that you have proof other than rhetoric?

{Regarding : Originally Posted by PiratePeter:
Iraq helped train some of the leaders of the underground terrorist movements. Saying they aren't invovled is like saying the generals coordinating the movements in Iraq from NORAD aren't invovled.}

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,84291,00.html "Marines Discover Terror Training Camp Near Baghdad " (from 2003)
(used to train the Palestine Liberation Front -- 25 acre permanent facility)

I believe this is the same camp referenced in http://www.intelmessages.org/Message...sages/826.html (from 2002)

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Conten...6/550kmbzd.asp


I ran across these in looking at the background on something else, and thought I would post these here to add some data to this discussion.

[Feltan]

...but I was thinking, what's this with the Shiites and Sunnis battling it out again. We have to get these guys together on the same wavelength or something, and then we'll have success with this port thing, what do you think?


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I think the Shiite vs. Sunni issue is one of our saving graces.

They might hate us, but they are more likely to nuke each other. The hatred and distrust between the two is far deeper and more long standing than any issue with the west.

Regards,
Feltan

[Gav]

****e

I believe you mean "Shiite". Your spelling is a very rude word where I come from.

[Feltan]

I believe you mean "Shiite". That is a very rude word where I come from.

You are absolutely correct, I meant Shiite. No insult intended, just a typo.

Regards,
Feltan

P.S. I went back and edited the original.

[gojujay]

Again in the papers: Abu Ahraib. The Prisioner, standing undressed while an over-masculine man in combat "style" clothing 'guarding' him [looking at his underwear]. Some portions of the army have become Nazis. I also noticed the profliferation of dogs: It is again, a symbol of Nazis. There is no purpose for those dogs except to maim and kill people, or guard a stash. ...snip...

Calling PollyAnna...

[Slim]

I have been listening to this line of thought for actually 3 years now? I don't know if we'll ever really know the full story. But we should at least try not to scream at each other, especially since we truly do LOVe each other [not really].....hey la, but I was thinking, what's this with the Shiites and Sunnis battling it out again. We have to get these guys together on the same wavelength or something, and then we'll have success with this port thing, what do you think?


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You need to up your dosage a little.

[umbrella]

Thanks Gavin for the thump on the head. Okay, well, I like the pizza suggestion. I think the American guys are just as worried about the fallout from this as the people on the so-called other side. Today, I had a very insightful discussion with a muslim extremist who, after a few moments, we came to realize that we really agree about many things. The thing was, we realized that that everyone since birth has been brainwashed into a certain way of thinking. For example: we go to school, or to temples, mosques, or churches and listen attentively to religious leaders, who give us information, which is propped up by our reading materials such as the bible, television, and radio. So if we're in our 20's or 30's, 40's or 50's, we've had that many years of soaking in input about religion. So there's not much chance that someone from the Bible belt for example, will be able to absorb much from another cuture.. as a former Graduate student in the Midwest, I remember listening to some very loud and sometimes nasty streetcorner preachers screaming about the cheerleader whores. It was shocking to listen to. I was on my way to a class, and I overheard a young street preacher - from a known denomination yell at a girl, calling her a whore, she was with her boyfriend and he almost killed him. I went to my home ec class. ... The same people who do those kinds of things are running amok in America. I blame the cheezy tv culture that we have offered to our children. It becomes totally impossible to introduce real culture, or cross culture when there is so much disagreement. We've become a fragmented society, each person determined to protect their own turf.

Bye.

Well, I could fence with my umbrella as did Emma Peel, but alas!