01-01-2002, 06:51 PM
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| 2001 World Championships Tapes are HERE!!! I got a delayed Christmas present from my regular Swedish supplier, Peter G. Seven four-hour tapes (not completely filled up, of course) of 2001 World Championships coverage. I watched most of them today (1/1/2002) and enjoyed the coverage. Those Europeans are so lucky. I mean, hours and hours of coverage with minimal commercials. If it were done with US networks, we'd have a commercial after every touch.
Anyway, I plan to convert them from PAL to NTSC, editing along the way. I will keep to the spirit of the events and the coverage and put the men's/women's events paired up as at the championships. The pairs are: ME/WF, MS/WE, MF/WS. I'll get rid of some commercials, but I'll leave some in, since some are pretty interesting. (There's a commercial for Viagra [or, at least, information on impotence] just about at every break. I wonder if they're hinting something about people who watch fencing.)
The fencing, for the most part, is just brilliant. The men's foil individuals was just amazing. Loic Attelly is definitely going to be a force to be reckoned with for the next few years. Brice Guyart is still a little green. Sanzo is Sanzo.
Funny, the Italian foilists, Sanzo and Vezzali are almost one-note players. Sanzo does his prep with the circle-six before parrying or attacking; Vezzali does her counter-attack with avoidance (any enemy of the US should strap her onto an attacking ICBM: she'll avoid all counter-measures). But, they do it really well.
Anyway, the men's foil individuals are really the best. The women's sabre that came with it...well, sad to say, but women's sabre is not quite there yet.
Before I continue, I should mention that the women's event got short shrift. Only the women's sabre had the full complement of two semi's and the final. All others (WF and WE) had either some or all of the semi's taken out of coverage.
Men's epee was pretty good with Milanoli doing his machismo thing. Hoffmann was quite good against Lueke of Germany, but he was completely manhandled by Milanoli.
Aside from the men's foil final, all the other finals were a wash. The winner had the other fencer by the balls (or the feminine equivalent) despite what the results show. Well, the Bokel-Flessel bout was close. The women's sabre was a one-sided affair with Touya beating the crap out of Bianco. Milanoli had Hoffmann by the gonads and squeezed at will, despite a 15-10 result. Pozdniakov ripped the doo-dad from Pillet, who fenced very, very well in the semis, beating Gourdain. And Vezzali, her counter-attack thingee (which I expect to be completely neutralized this season) took away whatever flickiness of Bau's attack. We're all familiar with Bau's snake-like attack arm, and Vezzali very competently danced around them, hitting Bau (and Scarlat in the semis) with the counter-attack for about 75% of her touches.
The team matches (only watched WE/MS) was pretty good. People who want to learn some latest sabre technique is strongly advised to get the men's team sabre coverage. Fodor of Hungary did a dance on Charikov (and Frossine) with some precision-tuned attacks into preparation.
The women's epee also had some interesting show, but the score was so lop-sided that it didn't really matter.
I haven't watched the rest of the tapes: the family wanted to watch something else on the VCR, so I took the rest to report this.
I will not be doing any converting or duplicating until after I return from Vegas. Then, after I make the NTSC version of the tapes, I'll be able to announce what tapes are available and the cost.
Speaking of cost, I would like to do Peter G a favor, with those of you who plan to purchase the tapes to help out as well. Peter had a child about a year+ ago. The son was born with some rather severe deformities (cleft palate among the deformities). The son recently had surgery (successful) and is doing fine. (Hey, this is no joke, I'm not going to ding you for money and keep it myself.) Now, while Sweden has socialized medicine and the surgery and such are all paid for by the gub'mint, Peter and his wife still has a lot of extra work to do with the baby. I would like to ask the tape purchasers to donate some additional amount (which I'll detail later) which will go in addition to what I usually give him for his great service to the US fencing community. Is that ok to ask?
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01-02-2002, 02:45 AM
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| Eric,
I'm in.
Plus, some extra for our "man on the ground", Peter G. is fine with me.
Paolo
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01-02-2002, 03:41 AM
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| I'm interested, as usual. And the extra is fine with me. Kids are expensive even when they don't have problems . . . and he's a good guy. I miss seeing his posts.
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01-02-2002, 05:12 AM
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| Eric,
I'm in. Just email me or post here with info.
Cheers,
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01-02-2002, 05:58 AM
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#5 | | Member
Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Naperville, IL, USA
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| I'm in as well, and if I can afford it, for all tapes and extra for the wonderful man in Sweden who sends us these tapes!
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01-02-2002, 09:39 AM
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| OK, count me in as well. I missed out on the last batch, but don't want to miss this one. Keep us posted. |
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01-03-2002, 05:53 AM
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| i'm definitely in as well! |
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01-03-2002, 08:46 AM
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| You can count me in for the tapes, and extra funds for childcare... Best wishes to Peter G. and his family! 
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01-03-2002, 12:21 PM
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| HEY ADD ANOTHER FOR THE TAPES JUST SEND THE INFO
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01-03-2002, 02:15 PM
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01-09-2002, 09:48 AM
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| Update: I converted the MS/WE events last night. I got both the individuals and team events onto one two-hour tape. I had to take out one bout (the third bout) of the women's team epee to fit everything onto one tape. It's not because that was a long or boring bout, but since Eurosport cut into the match at the third bout, I figured if they're not going to show the whole enchilada, I'm not too obligated to, either. Without that, my first attempt at making the conversion cut off the last bout of the men's team sabre.
As a bonus, for having cut out the third bout of the women's team epee, you get to see some Swedish commercials at the end.
I did also made cuts between the "halt" and "fence" for some scores. Basically, if they took their time getting back to the on guard line, and Eurosport cut away to a slo-mo replay, I may have paused during that part. They add up. Each one is about 10-15 seconds long. The final score in women's team epee was 45-33 or so, so that's 78 touches scored altogether. 780 seconds is 13 minutes of "dead" time. I did leave some in, because some were pretty cool touches and deserved its accompanied replay.
I hope to finish making the other tapes by next Friday. I'm hoping I can everything onto three tapes.
Please see the new topic on how to order the tapes. I'm going to take a chance, just to make things easier on me and you guys.
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