02-10-2006, 12:41 PM
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| "TM" foil blade
Recently, I saw an FIE foil blade labeled "TM" inside of a circle. The blade looked pretty nice and well balanced (I think it was blue too). Anybody know which company makes that one?
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02-10-2006, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by penguin_2000 Recently, I saw an FIE foil blade labeled "TM" inside of a circle. The blade looked pretty nice and well balanced (I think it was blue too). Anybody know which company makes that one? | If the "T" was small and looked like a dagger, AND in the center of the shild with the M to the right side, it was probable an StM blade with the S not stamped clearly. | 
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02-10-2006, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Purple Fencer If the "T" was small and looked like a dagger, AND in the center of the shild with the M to the right side, it was probable an StM blade with the S not stamped clearly. | no, it wasn't an StM.
it was a clearly stamped "TM" with block letters in a circle. also notice that I said it was well balanced... so definitely not StM   anybody else?
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02-10-2006, 02:27 PM
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| Wonder if it could be a Lammet blade....but their symbol is LM.... | |
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02-10-2006, 02:41 PM
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| Don't know the story behind it but I have seen and used BF blades stamped with a TM. They hold up just fine, or as well as any other BF. Just another "trade name" to add to BF's long list along with Cartel, Uhlmann/Allstar, PBT, TCA, FWF, Prieur, Negrinni etc.
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02-10-2006, 04:35 PM
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| None of the FIE approved forges have anything resembling TM in their name, so it has to be a relabel. | |
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02-10-2006, 05:29 PM
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| Was the TH within the FIE shield or was it an additional stamp> | |
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02-10-2006, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Purple Fencer Was the TH within the FIE shield or was it an additional stamp> | It was outside but very near the FIE mark. I will see if I can find any broken ones in my pile after I get back from an event this weekend.
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02-10-2006, 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by CvilleFencer It was outside but very near the FIE mark. I will see if I can find any broken ones in my pile after I get back from an event this weekend. | OK....if it was outside the FIE shield, then it's an FIE blade with an additional stamp for the reseller. FWF does this on their epees. The BF FIE shield on one side, theyr own logo on the other. | |
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02-10-2006, 11:13 PM
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| Perhaps it means "Trademark".
I have an FIE "BF" blade which also has a TM and a lunging fencer.
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02-11-2006, 07:08 AM
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| TM is Tournois Marketing a french brand who buy some blade at blaise forge, the owner is Alexandre Kondrat( who was a very good polish fencer, and who's also a good fencing master) | |
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02-11-2006, 07:10 AM
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02-11-2006, 09:36 AM
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| Living 5 mins from Absolute's warehouse means that when I am shopping for a new blade, I can root through the bins looking for the weapon that meets the needs for balance, stiffness, etc. When you look throuh the bin for BF FIE blades, they are also stamped as Uhlmann, Cartel or TM, but otherwise appear to be identical, (although one of my sons swear that the Uhlmann white BF is stiffer than the Cartel and TM). Blue Gauntlet is the same.
The fencers at our club who use this blade seem to find no difference in the BF FIE blades stamped with the TM when compared with the Cartel and Uhlmann. Absolute & BG charge the same for BF FIE blades regardless of whose stamp it carries.
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02-11-2006, 12:32 PM
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| Ahh... so it was actually a BF blade... explains why it felt so well balanced. Well, thanks for all the help guys!
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