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    I hope this hasn't been hashed over before. I checked the last 60 days and found a similar topic, but my query is this:

    When does an athlete approach a coach to let them know they would LOVE to be recruited during their senior year? The fencer in question is currently a Junior and has received mail from NYU and Penn. I thought they had to wait another year. Should this fencer sell herself in Dallas? Is it too soon? Should she wait until the coaches she wants come to her next year? I found the NCAA pages confusing....has anybody out there been through this? Thanks!!!!

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    You might be thinking about contacts (face-to-face meetings and/or phone calls which cannot be made until after July 1 following the junior year (Div I/II) or the end of the junior year (Div III). printed recruiting materials can be sent to an athlete starting September 1 of his/her junior year which is what is sounds like the fencer in question got.

    In any case an athlete is certainly free to let the various schools that he/she is interested in know that. In fact that's the easiest way to find out about the various programs. Most colleges should be willing to send information if requested. Remember that they can't initiate phone calls or visits for another 10 months, so don't be surprised when those don't happen until then at the earliest.

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    (which is NOT NCAA, so none of the above applies to us.... )
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    BTW, NYU sends out that letter apparently to everybody on the points list who takes the SAT. My daughter got one when she was a few years from applying to colleges, which is why I surmise that: she had taken the SAT in 7th grade or so for purposes of applying to an enrichment program. She was interested in NYU as a junior and tried to contact Steve Mormando but couldn't get in touch with him.
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    You as an athlete can always approach a coach and talk to the coach. The coach cannot approach you until July after the Junior year.
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    Originally posted by oiuyt:
    <STRONG>...
    -B
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    (which is NOT NCAA, so none of the above applies to us.... )</STRONG>
    Fencing is an individual sport. UMass doesn't have to have an NCAA fencing team for a fencer who goes to school there to represent UMass in the NCAAs. He or she will have to talk to the AD (athletic director) to cross t's and dot i's and then compete for UMass as an individual. Of course, don't expect the school to shell out a dime for equipment or travel or food money.
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    Eric-
    Wow, didn't realise that. I might start looking into this and seeing if we can't start getting some people at least into regionals. Do you have any suggestions for who (in fencing) I should be talking to for information? I'll stop by the Athletics office and see what help they can give me, but any outside information I could get would be appreciated. About half of the schools we compete against are varsity, so they'll at least have results that can be submitted to the regional selection board. If we start getting results that might also help in the long-term argument for getting moved to varsity status.
    Thx.
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    Ok, if you're an individual, you're not going to be able to fence in any dual meets. But, there are several Collegiate Opens which you may compete in. Also, the regionals to qualify to the NCAA championships are open game, I believe. You might want to contact Sherry Posthumus, who is a USFA VP as well as the person who deals with NCAA fencing and such.
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    Eric-
    As with most clubs we compete in dual meet format against both other clubs and against varsity teams. Now all I need to do is find out what the process to get considered for selection to regionals is and submit some of my fencers. Thanks for the info.
    -B
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    Eric- what was your source? After seeing this discussion I'd emailed the NCAA and originally been told the same thing that you said. When I talked to my regional committee chair he said exactly the opposite which is what I have now heard from a second person at the NCAA.
    I'm still working on trying to figure out what exactly is the case, but any information that you might have would be appreciated, thanks.
    -B
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    Contact Sherry Posthumus. She's a VP of USFA and she's involved with the NCAA side of fencing as well. There's also a guy at UPenn, last name is Cochran-Fikes (forgot the first name). I think he's the NCAA rep for all of fencing (i.e., not just for UPenn's fencing).
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    That would be quite a step provided the NCAA would allow it.

    Evan

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    Originally posted by rustica:
    <STRONG>... Should this fencer sell herself in Dallas? </STRONG>
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