Dinner *****

[yeoldearmourer]

I let my wife pay for dinner was she suggest we go out for meal. Now if i dont want to and suggest we go out then I pick up the tab

[Go? Fencing?]

Originally Posted by PeterGustafsson

Hi!




I somehow envison a personals ad like this:

Crusty curmudgeon, 40+, seeking the lady of his dreams.
You must like Latin proverbs, and the fact that I spend a lot of time online. I strongly dislike fashion statements, and prefer single-color clothing on everyone around me. You must like a good long argument, and accept that I take sports seriously. If this fits you, please answer to:

In-the-fourth-position, PO this newspaper


Have a nice time!

Peter Gustafsson

Hmm. Interesting how most of that fits me. Latin, yes, online, yes, single-colour, yes, as long as it's purple....

[MyrddinsPrecint]

Originally Posted by achilleus

You know that's exactly what the girls who want the guy to pay for everything said. That it's biology, and I as a guy should accept it...

To which I followed with that it's biology that guys want to spread their DNA, so they should accept the fact that guys are not going to be monogamous. Somehow, they couldn't accept that.

Whatever.

double standards???

i never would have guessed THAT.

we're smarter now than we once were. we can, in fact, override our biology.


--- of course, there's also a theory that says that anyone who would immediately accept a date from me couldn't do better than me, so i shouldn't want to date them......... unfortunatly, if you purely play by that theory, you'll NEVER get a date...... which is obviously not the desired outcome...

[D'Art]

Originally Posted by MyrddinsPrecint

--- of course, there's also a theory that says that anyone who would immediately accept a date from me couldn't do better than me, so i shouldn't want to date them......... unfortunatly, if you purely play by that theory, you'll NEVER get a date...... which is obviously not the desired outcome...

So THAT'S where I've been going wrong....

[achilleus]

Originally Posted by MyrddinsPrecint

double standards???

i never would have guessed THAT.

we're smarter now than we once were. we can, in fact, override our biology.

Are you saying that I can override biology? That I can be monogamous? I don't believe you and neither do any of the girls I've dated!

[MyrddinsPrecint]

Originally Posted by achilleus

Are you saying that I can override biology? That I can be monogamous? I don't believe you and neither do any of the girls I've dated!

open relationships for you it is........

now you just need to find a girl (or two, or three, or four) who aren't opposed to open relationships.......

[Feltan]

Originally Posted by MyrddinsPrecint

...you just need to find a girl (or two, or three, or four) who aren't opposed to open relationships.......

In the old days, we used to call those type of girls sluts. I don't suppose that is PC enough anymore; and that is ashame too, the distiction was nice -- kind of like truth in advertising.

Regards,
Feltan

[achilleus]

Originally Posted by MyrddinsPrecint

open relationships for you it is........

now you just need to find a girl (or two, or three, or four) who aren't opposed to open relationships.......

I don't need to find a girl. That means I'll have to commit to one. Something I don't really feel the need to do. Personally, I enjoy the dating, hanging with friends, and being single. Sure, the girls eventually get tired and move on, but then again, so do I. So it all works out for now.

[Larrison]

Originally Posted by Feltan

In the old days, we used to call those type of girls sluts. I don't suppose that is PC enough anymore; and that is ashame too, the distiction was nice -- kind of like truth in advertising.

And before that, they were called wenches, or "loose" women. .

The usual scheme was to get take them out and get them drunk, for which some of the old slang was "tight" or "tipsy". And then you would take them home for the usual fun between two people.

And of course, everyone knows that you need a wench to tighten a loose screw.


*running and hiding!*

[achilleus]

Originally Posted by Feltan

In the old days, we used to call those type of girls sluts. I don't suppose that is PC enough anymore; and that is ashame too, the distiction was nice -- kind of like truth in advertising.

Regards,
Feltan

The term hasn't really fallen out of use, but it's un-PC for a number of reasons. For example a women is a **** if she sleeps around, but a guy is a stud. Which is why I often refer to myself as a male-****.

Personally, I've always hated it since it is a highly negative term and implies that there is something wrong with having sex.

Edit: Wow, who knew that the singular of sluts get's censored?

[JackOfHearts]

Originally Posted by Go? Fencing?

Hmm. Interesting how most of that fits me. Latin, yes, online, yes, single-colour, yes, as long as it's purple....

He's too old for you.

[Fencergrl]

I never felt comfortable about the inequality of men paying for everything… now before I get recited the differences in women and men’s wages… I just want to reiterate that it’s simply how I felt when I was dating.

When I dated, I was in search of a man I can have a relationship where we were both equals. Having him pay for everything felt like we were starting out on the wrong foot.

Sex had nothing to do with what a man bought me. I have sex with men who I want to have sex with. I spend time with men I wanted to get to know.

My husband had a really hard time with me at first. He is a very generous man. As a woman who has always been fiercely independent (even as a very young child), I felt (and still feel) uncomfortable about people I don’t know giving me something for no reason.

As I’ve got to know him, I felt more comfortable with him surprising me with a gift “because it was Wednesday” etc… His generosity with the people around him is one of the things I truly love about him. I love it because it is genuine.

[MyrddinsPrecint]

Originally Posted by Feltan

In the old days, we used to call those type of girls sluts. I don't suppose that is PC enough anymore; and that is ashame too, the distiction was nice -- kind of like truth in advertising.

Regards,
Feltan

i have friends who are "slutty", and friends who aren't opposed to "open relationships". i think that it's VERY different, although i put no value judgements on either.

people who are sluts tend to have sex with people they wouldn't want to spend large chunks of time with as friends... they're simply in it for the sex. people who are into open relationships usually aren't very serious about the person they're seeing, (exceptions, as always, exist), but do have a friendship with the person that exists outside of the bedroom.

it may be a meaningless distinction..... but the distinction has been made in terms, and clearly the people labeled either might get offended.

(for the record, i have never put myself in either category. and i haven't been called slutty since before i lost my virginity......)

[Go? Fencing?]

Originally Posted by JackOfHearts

He's too old for you.

Aww, don't worry, Jack, you're much more fun to flirt with.
Unless it's in Latin, then I'll go to Inq.

[Dmitrivna]

LOL!

listen to this absurd argument with my friend Matt, its sort of related, though not really =P ~

Me: I dont know, I like the whole chivalrous, stereotypic "knight in shining armor" thing... but so he'll still listen when I tell him to do things...
Matt: You cant have both! If you want chivalry, you basically cant do anything, and yet you want to be the boss - it doesnt work!
Me: What, so you can't compromise? Its not like I like the whole thing, just the courtesies that are owed to a woman - for example she can hit you, but you cant hit her back ((he doesnt believe in this concept, which started the whole thing))
Matt: no, you can only have one or the other. the end.

(we reach the point where we head in different directions)

Me: bah, begone, small-minded fool.
Matt: You're small minded! You believe in stereotypes!
Me: Just that one! And anyway, YOURE the one who doesnt believe in compromise - you must realise you're never going to have a working marriage.
Matt: Stereotypical! (both walking away yelling to each other)
Me: Just face it! We're both wrong!

[/threadjack] (hehe... I dont know, it just came into my head!)

[Feltan]

Originally Posted by MyrddinsPrecint

i have friends who are "slutty", and friends who aren't opposed to "open relationships". i think that it's VERY different, although i put no value judgements on either.

people who are sluts tend to have sex with people they wouldn't want to spend large chunks of time with as friends... they're simply in it for the sex. people who are into open relationships usually aren't very serious about the person they're seeing, (exceptions, as always, exist), but do have a friendship with the person that exists outside of the bedroom.

it may be a meaningless distinction..... but the distinction has been made in terms, and clearly the people labeled either might get offended.

(for the record, i have never put myself in either category. and i haven't been called slutty since before i lost my virginity......)

I'm not really familiar with the distinctions you are pointing out. I am sure they exist, but never really affected me when I was dating. Rather, the distinction I remember was rather clear: there were some girls you would take home to meet Mom, and some you wouldn't.

Regards,
Feltan

[achilleus]

Originally Posted by MyrddinsPrecint

i have friends who are "slutty", and friends who aren't opposed to "open relationships". i think that it's VERY different, although i put no value judgements on either.

people who are sluts tend to have sex with people they wouldn't want to spend large chunks of time with as friends... they're simply in it for the sex. people who are into open relationships usually aren't very serious about the person they're seeing, (exceptions, as always, exist), but do have a friendship with the person that exists outside of the bedroom.

it may be a meaningless distinction..... but the distinction has been made in terms, and clearly the people labeled either might get offended.

(for the record, i have never put myself in either category. and i haven't been called slutty since before i lost my virginity......)

Excellent point on the distinctions. This is why I'm not a fan of open relationships. Why commit if I'm not that serious? I'd rather just continue to play the field...

[achilleus]

Originally Posted by Dmitrivna

LOL!

listen to this absurd argument with my friend Matt, its sort of related, though not really =P ~

Me: I dont know, I like the whole chivalrous, stereotypic "knight in shining armor" thing... but so he'll still listen when I tell him to do things...
Matt: You cant have both! If you want chivalry, you basically cant do anything, and yet you want to be the boss - it doesnt work!
Me: What, so you can't compromise? Its not like I like the whole thing, just the courtesies that are owed to a woman - for example she can hit you, but you cant hit her back ((he doesnt believe in this concept, which started the whole thing))
Matt: no, you can only have one or the other. the end.

(we reach the point where we head in different directions)

Me: bah, begone, small-minded fool.
Matt: You're small minded! You believe in stereotypes!
Me: Just that one! And anyway, YOURE the one who doesnt believe in compromise - you must realise you're never going to have a working marriage.
Matt: Stereotypical! (both walking away yelling to each other)
Me: Just face it! We're both wrong!

[/threadjack] (hehe... I dont know, it just came into my head!)

Wow, two threads combine...

One of favorite movie quotes is from the Maltese Falcon, when Peter Lorre gets slapped and grabs Mary to retaliate, Bogart intervenes saying, 'When you're slapped, you'll take it and like it.'

Always made an impression on me, and I've always just taken my slaps...