The sabre

[Grimman5000]

Is it good?

[Epee_Pox]

The F-86 was an impressive machine when it entered the Korean conflict. And its lines are sleek and stylish, like a 1960s Italian sportscar. I wouldn't mind flying one (and today would be a great day for it here). So yes, I'll call it a good thing.

[Aqua_volans]

hey, the f-86 was on par witht he MiG-15 the only difference is that th US pilots were GREAT, they even managed to shoot down 12 MiG-15s in P-51s

[Frater_Frag]

Good planes, but this one was better!

http://web.telia.com/~u21804390/svw54e.htm

The SAAB J29 was propably the fastest of this kind of jets. It was also very easy to service for the mechanics, in fact, like all of SAAB:s fighters, it can be serviced by conscripts!

I have seen a J29 fly at least two times in my life, and its a sight that you won´t forget!

Btw, the J29 did see action i Congo, back in 1961, after three days there was no more enemy planes to shoot down.

[Aqua_volans]

ewww. i think its ugly. even an f-4 phantom looks better

[Epee_Pox]

hey, the f-86 was on par witht he MiG-15 the only difference is that th US pilots were GREAT, they even managed to shoot down 12 MiG-15s in P-51s

The two planes were not exactly on par. The MiG-15 had a higher service ceiling than the F-86, outclimbed it, and was faster at high altitude -- all of which attributes ought to have made it the deadlier of the two in almost any dogfight.

However, the guns weren't comparable -- the Sabre had a lot of small, fast low-damage rounds; and the MiG had a handful of large, slow high-damage shells. The MiG's gunsight wasn't nearly as good, either. The MiG was designed to take out big bombers, not nimble fighters.

That said, when the MiG was handled by capable pilots (including the occasional Soviet and Chinese pilot getting some "hot" training) it gave the Sabre a run for its money. And even with North Korean pilots the MiG tore the heck out of the American jets and Mustangs in theater until the Sabre came along. But once the F86 came along, the skill of the American pilot was so superior to that of the North Korean pilot, that the MiG's combat edge was more than nullified.

(Dang, I'd sure love to be up right now, instead of flying this desk. Even just some touch-and-goes.)

[Zilverzmurfen]

I prefer épée.


And JAS 39 'Gripen' is the most awesome plane ever.

[Grimman5000]

Why the heck are you talking about a plane?

EDIT: I know about the F-86 but I was refering to the sword.

[Epee Scherma]

No, I don't like sabres. The sabre is a very aggressive thing.
http://www.library.ca.gov/history/sy...sabertiger.jpg

It is hard to defend a sabre attack.

[Aqua_volans]

hmm... then why post on water cooler?

[Epee_Pox]

Why the heck are you talking about a plane?

In the water cooler, thread drift happens quickly and easily. Out-and-out threadjacking is so commonplace as to be unremarkable (except by one person who gets miffy). I'm sure you'll get used to it.

And anyway, you DID ask...

[KD5MDK]

I prefer épée.


And JAS 39 'Gripen' is the most awesome plane ever.

F-4 Phantom. Most versatile plane ever, with the possible exception of the F-15E Strike Eagle.

[Aqua_volans]

no. f-4 sucked. visibility sucked, can't maneuver, its just heavy, fast, and burns fuel REAL fast too.

[BovineMadness]

Think this is the quickest and most absolute threadjacking I've seen in my brief tenure here!

CONGRATULATIONS!!!!

[Pauli]

Sabre is way cool.
I told myself, once I have fenced epee for 3 years, I'll get into sabre as well. It looks extremely fascinating and I definitely do want to get to know how to fence it.

[Pauli]

Is it good?

Hmm, have been scrolling through this thread. Is it about planes also? I may have missunderstood, though never heard about a sabre plane.....

[Inquartata]

Hmm, have been scrolling through this thread. Is it about planes also? I may have missunderstood, though never heard about a sabre plane.....

It's just an epeeist's idea of "humor". Pay no attention to them.

( There is an old American fighter plane called the SabreJet. http://www.aero-web.org/specs/northam/f-86l.htm )

[Beowulfman6]

The F-14 is cool for nostalgic reasons (can you say Top Gun?) but a little old. The FA-18 is incredible, but it dosn't have the payload capacity of the F-14. Navy planes are cooler just becouse they get shot off the decks of ships. The pilots must have more balls too.

Realy I don't know crap about planes, just what I learned on the discovery channel and from Top Gun.

[JasminaJ]

MMMM! Flying planes!!! Love them! One of the essential 3 "F's" of my life, another is fencing.
Warplanes- the WW2-P-38Lightening. Fast and beautiful twin boomed fighter bomber.
I fly single engine planes, Cessna 152, 172's, V35 Bonanza and anything else available to rent through my FBO.
I am a sabeuriste! I'm a member of Babes With Blades in Southern California.
Let's talk flying or fencing! It's all good.

[FeatherBlade]

And JAS 39 'Gripen' is the most awesome plane ever.

I agree. Waaaay less noisy than the old planes the Czech Rep. used to have...