Letter Size of Country on Back

[parryDoh]

Is the size of lettering of the country the same as name, 8cm-10cm?

Thanks

[Zilverzmurfen]

Is the size of lettering of the country the same as name, 8cm-10cm?

Thanks

Yup. extra chars

[parryDoh]

Do they have to be the same size, example, can the name be in 10cm and the country in 8 cm?

[DHCJr]

A very good question. Here is another question. Do all the letters of the name have to be the same size?

Suppose you have the last name McDonald. According to new December 2005 rules, (M.25.3.h) all letters must be capital and 1 - 1.5 cm wide. A Capital C and a small c look the same, just one is smaller. Would McDONALD pass if the c was at least 8 cm?

Also suppose the person doing the jacket uses l, instead of I. It probably would not pass the 1cm.

I am not sure of these 2 questions. On your question, I would say it should not be a problem, as long as the name had all the same height and the country had all the same height and they were between 8 and 10 cm.

[Purple Fencer]

A very good question. Here is another question. Do all the letters of the name have to be the same size?

Suppose you have the last name McDonald. According to new December 2005 rules, (M.25.3.h) all letters must be capital and 1 - 1.5 cm wide. A Capital C and a small c look the same, just one is smaller. Would McDONALD pass if the c was at least 8 cm?

Or if your last name is Paffenroth or Dinwiddie-Cobb....kinda tough for the longer names...

[KD5MDK]

Mine is longer than that...

[DHCJr]

Or if your last name is Paffenroth or Dinwiddie-Cobb....kinda tough for the longer names...

Not really. Considering they allow the reduction of the width (1 cm) and assuming .25 cm between letter, you can have 24 letters in 1 foot. It is very rare to not have at least 1 foot between your shoulder blades. Those would take between 5 - 7", which shouldn't be a problem.

[fencerbill]

Or if your last name is Paffenroth or Dinwiddie-Cobb....kinda tough for the longer names...

The rule does not name a font. The software that the Marxes use can be stretched or narrowed horizontally. I have definitely seen some long names that were squeezed horizontally.

I have also seen names hyphenated, appearing on two lines.

Why couldn't someone start the names on the upper sleeve, across the back and onto the other sleeve?

I believe I have seen McDonald with a smaller, but block capital, C. I believe I have also seen "de CASTILLO".

Incidentally, the change to minimum 8cm, max 10cm, is why the Marxes now have a ten inch stencil cutter instead of their old three inch stencil cutter.

Don may remember back at the 2000 South Bend Junior/Cadet Worlds when the Prieur people were stencilling with an opaque blue paint, not a dye. There were some Lames where the lettering was not conductive. We found that even better than sandpaper for recovering conductivity was rubbing with a scrap of copper strip mesh.

[KD5MDK]

Not really. Considering they allow the reduction of the width (1 cm) and assuming .25 cm between letter, you can have 24 letters in 1 foot. It is very rare to not have at least 1 foot between your shoulder blades. Those would take between 5 - 7", which shouldn't be a problem.

A 1cm wide "M" would be a sight to read from a "reasonable distance", to be sure. Hmm. I'm interested to see what size my name comes out to when I get mine done.

[DHCJr]

Bill gives a better example. Now, with the new FIE rule book de Castillo, would be illegal. But suppose they made DE in 8 cm hight, while Castillo was 10 cm. As the rules stands now, it would be legal, since they are capital letters. With C's, the only way you can tell a capital letter is height, so would McDONALD be legal?

I thought I remembered it used to say Block letters, but as Bill pointed out, there is no font anymore.

Even at a maximum 1.5 cm, think of what Ivan LEE name looks like 10 cm tall and even with 0.5 between letters, that is only 6 cm (~ 2.4") wide.

[MHS Fencer]

Perhaps the rule is just badly translated - the letters from side to side need not be a maximum of 1.5 cm, but rather the "brush stroke" (for lack of a better term) must be a max of 1.5 cm and a min of 1 cm (if that is indeed the rule).

[KD5MDK]

That would imply that (assuming letters are a least 3 brush strokes wide, excepting 'I'), that a 7 letter name is 22.5 cm wide (using Donald's .25cm spacing). That's .7 feet. However, a 15 letter name: 48.5 cm or about 19".

[sabreur]

That would imply that (assuming letters are a least 3 brush strokes wide, excepting 'I'), that a 7 letter name is 22.5 cm wide (using Donald's .25cm spacing). That's .7 feet. However, a 15 letter name: 48.5 cm or about 19".

You just need to have broad shoulders.

This is another thread for rules lawyers.

[PeterGustafsson]

Hi!


Do the rules expressly forbid non-Latin letters? Some east asian people have names that take a lot of space when translitterated into latin letters, but are neatly covered in 3 characters in their language.

We do not have name requirement for internal Swedish competitions, which is good for Julatash Pipantagura, ME fencer.


Have a nice time!

Peter Gustafsson

[Squall_Leonhart]

my name would take up nearly the entire back of my lame if I were to "translate" it. zuahahahah! However, let me put it this way: What's the point of having your name written in your non-romance language if no one but your fellow countrymen can read it? Wouldn't that lead to hassles at international competitions? Ah, the bane of romance languages!

[Zilverzmurfen]

We do not have name requirement for internal Swedish competitions, which is good for Julatash Pipantagura, ME fencer.

Actually, his name is Pipatanagura. I think I had to watch him fence like three bouts until I could fully read his name without being interrupted...

[KD5MDK]

Hi!


Do the rules expressly forbid non-Latin letters? Some east asian people have names that take a lot of space when translitterated into latin letters, but are neatly covered in 3 characters in their language.

We do not have name requirement for internal Swedish competitions, which is good for Julatash Pipantagura, ME fencer.


Have a nice time!

Peter Gustafsson

I think that the name would have to be in the same (or at least recognizably similar) form as it is on the pool sheets and such, so that the referee and spectators can know who they're looking at.

[DHCJr]

That would imply that (assuming letters are a least 3 brush strokes wide, excepting 'I'), that a 7 letter name is 22.5 cm wide (using Donald's .25cm spacing). That's .7 feet. However, a 15 letter name: 48.5 cm or about 19".

Your math is interesting to say the least. How do you calculate your figures. Using the same .25 cm spacing and maximum width of the letters, I come up with 12 cm for a 7 letter name and 26 cm for a 15 letter name.

7 letters = 10.5 cm
6 spaces = 1.5 cm

15 letters = 22.5 cm
14 spaces = 3.5 cm

[DHCJr]

Hi!


Do the rules expressly forbid non-Latin letters? Some east asian people have names that take a lot of space when translitterated into latin letters, but are neatly covered in 3 characters in their language.

We do not have name requirement for internal Swedish competitions, which is good for Julatash Pipantagura, ME fencer.


Have a nice time!

Peter Gustafsson

I am not a language specialist, but does Asian languages have capital letters? If not, then I would say yes, the rules prohibit the use of the Asian characters.

[DHCJr]

Perhaps the rule is just badly translated - the letters from side to side need not be a maximum of 1.5 cm, but rather the "brush stroke" (for lack of a better term) must be a max of 1.5 cm and a min of 1 cm (if that is indeed the rule).

I believe you are right. I did re-read the French Rule book. Now I am definitly not fluent in French, but it does appear that it is the stroke, which is 1 - 1.5 cm. If that is true, then my statement about how much space it will take is completely wrong.