Fencing and burning fat part 2

[ZEROFLASH]

First, I would like you all for all your tips and info.

Well im not an over weight person. I am 5'11" and 160lb male. This might sound vain but all im trying to do is get a six pack. But as much as I lower my calorie intake and increase my time fencing I just can't get rid of that thin layer of fat under my skin that covers my abs. Thats why I brought up the question about fencing being an anaerobic workout. I fence pretty intensly and I am often out of breath during a good 15 point bout. Is that the very thing that is stopping me from burning the fat? Is my body just producing more glucose instead of going to the fat reserves? Any comment would be welcomed.

thanks

p.s. Someone said that carbs and fat will eventually turn to muscle if you keep a steady workout routine. I don't think thats true.

[achilleus]

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Helvetica, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Helvetica, Arial">Originally posted by ZEROFLASH:
<strong>First, I would like you all for all your tips and info.

Well im not an over weight person. I am 5'11" and 160lb male. This might sound vain but all im trying to do is get a six pack. But as much as I lower my calorie intake and increase my time fencing I just can't get rid of that thin layer of fat under my skin that covers my abs. Thats why I brought up the question about fencing being an anaerobic workout. I fence pretty intensly and I am often out of breath during a good 15 point bout. Is that the very thing that is stopping me from burning the fat? Is my body just producing more glucose instead of going to the fat reserves? Any comment would be welcomed.

thanks

p.s. Someone said that carbs and fat will eventually turn to muscle if you keep a steady workout routine. I don't think thats true.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Helvetica, Arial">One thing to keep in mind, everyone's different. Some people are easily able to get the six-pack, others aren't. The Rock, of wrestling fame, had liposuction because he was unhappy with his stomach. Even after that, he still isn't cut like some other people are, and most likely, never will be.

For most people to get a 6 pack requires a lot of working out, and more importantly the right diet. If that is your goal, go see a physical trainer who can help you regulate your diet and prescribe a work-out routine to help you achive your goal.

[135711]

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Helvetica, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Helvetica, Arial">Originally posted by ZEROFLASH:
<strong>First, I would like you all for all your tips and info.

Well im not an over weight person. I am 5'11" and 160lb male. This might sound vain but all im trying to do is get a six pack. But as much as I lower my calorie intake and increase my time fencing I just can't get rid of that thin layer of fat under my skin that covers my abs. Thats why I brought up the question about fencing being an anaerobic workout. I fence pretty intensly and I am often out of breath during a good 15 point bout. Is that the very thing that is stopping me from burning the fat? Is my body just producing more glucose instead of going to the fat reserves? Any comment would be welcomed.

thanks

p.s. Someone said that carbs and fat will eventually turn to muscle if you keep a steady workout routine. I don't think thats true.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Helvetica, Arial">You should have your glucose level checked.

[Bebop and Rocksteady]

Don't you have to exercise your abs to get a six pack?

[JEC]

You need to lower your total body fat. Body builders do it using high protein diets. Not healthy at all. You also need to work the abs muscles.

<small>[ 08-09-2002, 10:51 PM: Message edited by: JEC ]</small>

[Inquartata]

Yeah, it takes all three---lots of ab work
( we're talking hundreds of crunches or situps daily here ), reducing overall fat ( cause you won't see much definition in even the most ripped muscles if they're covered by subcutaneous fat ), and a good genetic endowment.

What body type are you? Ectomorph, endo morph, mesomorph?

I'm sort of in the same boat myself. In great shape---BMI of about 21, resting pulse rate around fifty, etc---but the ab muscles, while developed, just don't show much. Unfortunately, the waist is where we guys put on fat first, and lose it last. So if you have any at all, that's where it's going to be...

[nahouw]

I have friends who compete in body building. At your height and weight, I would assume that your problem is not fat but rather lack of muscle.

If you are fencing, that would provide enough for excess fat burning -- fat is burned with a low level consistent intensity -- anything higher will access glucose stores. And, as someone suggested glucose tolerance testing, that is only called for when you are having problems with fatigue, and can be readily addressed by diet.

Like somebody said, washboard abs is partly dictated by genetics.

You should get on a consistent program of weightlifting. Though my friends have complex routines for preparation for competition, you can do a simple all-around basic workout that hits all the muscle groups: start low and build up, adding sets by week. You can do abs and pushups everyday (100); do squats (regular and lunges) and deadlifts (regular and straight legged) every other day (start in sets of 15, and add sets by week) -- remember, muscle is only built by having a day of rest.

Of course, the most important part of body building is diet (hang around these guys and you will know more about calorie counting and composition of food than you ever wanted to know!!!). Basic principles: 1) If you want to do a cardio workout, do it in the morning; if you need to have something in your stomach first, have a protein shake. 2) breakfast always includes a fruit 3) make sure to have a salad at lunch 4) no carbs after 7PM. And, throughout the day, make sure you have a 50-50 balance of proteins to carbs.

[nahouw]

<small>[ 08-10-2002, 09:41 AM: Message edited by: nahouw ]</small>

[Inquartata]

Crosspost gremlins are loose!

[shyHeidi]

I used to have a 6 pack... Well, more like a 4-pack, if there is such thing, but whatever.
When I started fencing I lost it. (makes no difference to me, I wasn't exactly trying hard to get it) but anyway, the reason I lost it is because with all the exercise I was getting from fencing, I stopped doing situps, and there really is no stomach muscle exercise in fencing, you seem to exercise just about everything else...
Well so like they said, you have to do situps. Fencing is great exercise, of course, and you can see the results but they're in your arms and legs.

[135711]

i don't get the 6 pack thing but, wouldn't that make you sorta sick for fencing? i remember going out with the group after class and having a little brewsky with crawfish, but we'd sweat it out later during footwork.

[ZEROFLASH]

Crawfish! wow. i am really interested in trying those out. but you cant get them fresh out here in california. they are frozen and precooked. (YUCK!). It looks like a little lobster! does it taste better than shrimp?

[135711]

go to jazz fest in new orleans one april and 'eat the tails and suck the heads' as they say, let the good times rollez

[Boo Boo]

Horray, my genetics are actually good for something... although I am a woman, so I am not sure how desruirable a "six pack" is... (fortunately it is only gentle sculpting of the abs and not a bulging six pack.... :-))

To get a "six pack" I would guess that the following has the most influence: ab crunches and reverse ab crunches (using machines with weights on them). I try to be careful with what I eat, but love food (try to watch calorie and fat intake though): no crazy diets.

Beyond that, I do a lot of fencing, cardio work, other resistance work, footwork and lessons.

Women tend to have more body fat than men (I have just over 23%), but that doesn't mean that I don't have nicely defined abs (although I wouldn't want a pronounced six pack anyway - not too feminine...).

Boo

[135711]

i have no idea what a 6 pack is and how it relates to your abdominals other than if you drink alot of beer you'll get the proverbial beer stomach [belly]- totally gross no one really wants to view it, but we must alas. i don't want to go into a long paper on the stomach, but back in martial arts, they used to carry on that everyone's chi was located in their stomach. [maybe you need yours] they did a lot of yelling from their 'stomachs' [if you can believe it, and also, swiveling their hips [where more power is located]. also yogas, who, in some provinces, swallow herbalized gauze to purify their intestines, and then 'gently' pull it out of their stomachs. thereby distorting their entire esophical lining, cilia and so forth.[i say drink your herb tea]
back to the question though: best thing is don't bother with beer, until you really feel your entire high level competetions are really over.