I don't say that the Nike situation was a good thing, but that Mr. Perez, faced with the situation (regardless of how it was created) was able to recognize and then acted upon what was in the best interest in Nike. It takes personal courage and integrity to do what he did, and frankly, I respect him for his decision.
Unfortunately, Nancy has been enabled by many of her friends, advisors, and members of the EC and the Board.
Privately, many or most of them say she should resign, but very few, if any, have had the integrity to tell her directly.
Subsequently, Nancy has been emboldened and actually told one of her main advisors that she thinks she has done a good job.
As far as her integrity or personal courage, she has made it perfectly clear that she cares more about her position than the best interests of the USFA.
When offered the opprtunity to avoid resigning and try to stop the recall by agreeing to keep the position (in name only) by giving 100% of the portfolio to one or more Vice Presidents, she was willing.
Can you imagine that?
What self-respecting person would want to be a complete lame-duck President, with no decision-making authority or power whatsoever?
Well, Nancy, that's who.
And, when you look at all the postings, comments, claims, facts, whatever, over the last month or so, that pretty much sums up where her head is at.
She deserves all the credit in the world for having undertaken this very tough and time-consuming position, let alone as a volunteer.
But, once it became clear that she wasn't up to the job, (she even admitted she didn't have the time) and the handwriting was on the wall, she should have had the personal courage and integrity to resign gracefully and graciously.
Instead, she'd rather remain as a President without any portfolio as a means to save face.
That's really selfish, really sad, and hopefully the last of Ms. Anderson's bad decisions as President.
I'm afraid your last post, at least in my opinion, has hurt your credibility.
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When offered the opprtunity to avoid resigning and try to stop the recall by agreeing to keep the position (in name only) by giving 100% of the portfolio to one or more Vice Presidents, she was willing.
Can you imagine that?
What self-respecting person would want to be a complete lame-duck President, with no decision-making authority or power whatsoever?
You have made a new claim that essentially states Ms. Anderson has agreed to relinquish her duties as long as she retains her title. If true, this is insider information that is unverifiable by the majority of USFA members and contributors to this forum.
Also, if true, doesn't this accomplish your mission? I thought the goal of the recall proponents was to move US Fencing forward. Ms. Anderson was percieved as an obstacle to that goal, and as such became the target of a recall drive. If she has agreed to relinquish her authority, albeit in a manner that allows her to retain some dignity, why attack her for it. It saeems as if you've won.
Such an attack makes the recall effort appear to be more personal in nature
I'm afraid your last post, at least in my opinion, has hurt your credibility.
You have made a new claim that essentially states Ms. Anderson has agreed to relinquish her duties as long as she retains her title. If true, this is insider information that is unverifiable by the majority of USFA members and contributors to this forum.
Also, if true, doesn't this accomplish your mission? I thought the goal of the recall proponents was to move US Fencing forward. Ms. Anderson was percieved as an obstacle to that goal, and as such became the target of a recall drive. If she has agreed to relinquish her authority, albeit in a manner that allows her to retain some dignity, why attack her for it. It saeems as if you've won.
Such an attack makes the recall effort appear to be more personal in nature
Why would it be more personal? Those behind the recall are not in favor of that option, an option that was proposed to us by those advising Nancy, as we feel leaving Nancy in as a powerless President is basically accomplishing nothing.
If anything, it creates additional problems, as the USFA has never had a situation where the President has no portfolio and all the decisions are made by the Vice Presidents.
You've got it totally wrong, Bezoar. We're not looking to get rid of Nancy, the person. We're looking to replace her failed leadership with someone capable.
Do not twist this around.
Would you want to have the USFA in the situation where the President is completely powerless and is only staying in the position to save face?
As soon as the web site is back up I will go back and check again. Unlike you good Dr I blame the hosting service for it going down not Nancy. I use DirectNic at 15.00 dollars a year and I have never gone down.
What make me mad about all this is you all are holding her to a higher standard This is very much a pet pevve of mine just because a person hold a office doesn't mean that person isnt going to make mistake. Compare her to Stacy mean you are holding her to someone else standard.
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Alleged NAtional Coach Ed Korfanty shakes off the numbing ennui from his delayed appointment (funny, he's been doing all sorts of NC duties....) and guides two Americans into the semi-finals, and four in the top 16.
Well thank goodness Mr. Korfanty has been doing all sorts of NC duties, even though he has been one of those who has not been given the courtesy of returned phone calls, emails, etc. from Ms. Anderson (he told me this personally). Good chance for you Capt. Slo Mo to talk to him directly to get your own take on why he is supporting this recall.
As soon as the web site is back up I will go back and check again. Unlike you good Dr I blame the hosting service for it going down not Nancy. I use DirectNic at 15.00 dollars a year and I have never gone down.
What make me mad about all this is you all are holding her to a higher standard This is very much a pet pevve of mine just because a person hold a office doesn't mean that person isnt going to make mistake. Compare her to Stacy mean you are holding her to someone else standard.
Wrong. Nobody is holding Nancy to Stacey's level.
She is being judged for the job she is doing.
And, that has been dreadful.
As for the website crashing, that is but one of the problems, but it is a serious one.
It ought to be determined whether the downtime is a result of the hosting service, the server (depending on who provided it) or the webpage programming. The responsible party in each case is somewhat different.
It ought to be determined whether the downtime is a result of the hosting service, the server (depending on who provided it) or the webpage programming. The responsible party in each case is somewhat different.
I'm fairly sure that Dan has previously stated that the issue is with the programming, not the server. I believe that he does site maintainance as a volunteer, but his company, Red Star Design, is the paid hosting company, and was responsible for the redesigned look and feel.
-B
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"Oh but you can't expect to wield supreme executive power just because some watery tart threw a sword at you!"
What concerns me more than anything else is what I see as a very limited number of voices that are actually discussing this issue. What has been done to inform the "membership" of this issue or how/why they should care? From what I can tell, our USFA "general" membership, not unlike the general population, is basically unaware of/or uninterested in the politics of the organization. In just my very informal "research study", my survey of average fencers indicates to me that most people aren't even aware that the USFA president is even facing a recall and what that may or may not mean to our organization. In fact, most people don't even know the USFA presidents name - (but before you all jump on that, remember the poll that the majority of American's polled didn't know who Al Gore was either - when he was VP) - so the sad fact is IF the BOD issues a recall and IF an interim president is appointed and IF/WHEN the NC issues a new name and MAYBE WHEN the "non-vote" occurs and a new president is instated, I don't see that the majority of our membership will even know/care about it. I am associated with several national professional organizations and from my experience there, I doubt that even if the issue went to membership vote, that you would get even a reasonable response as most mail in ballot type elections have minimal membership response.
So my bottom line here is that while I am glad to see that there are individuals who care enough about fencing and the USFA to open dialoque about it and to spend the time and energy to debate the issues, I am equally saddened by both the limited exposure of this issue to the general population and subsequently the lack of interest and typical apathy by the membership.
I will continue to monitor the discussions and hope the the USFA emerges stronger from this, whatever the outcome.
When offered the opprtunity to avoid resigning and try to stop the recall by agreeing to keep the position (in name only) by giving 100% of the portfolio to one or more Vice Presidents, she was willing.
Dr. Lutz
I been looking into this statement and from my sources they did make the offer if she agree to give her powers to one of the vice president and she turn them down flat. Another misstatement by the good old DR.
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I been looking into this statement and from my sources they did make the offer if she agree to give her powers to one of the vice president and she turn them down flat. Another misstatement by the good old DR.
Well, in order to prove it, confidentiality would have to be violated, but you are totally incorrect.
The offer was made, it was offered to us in a deal to drop the recall, and your sources are wrong.
But, it is totally irrelevant to the focal point, which is that Nancy Anderson is simply a nice person who got in way over her head.
Well, in order to prove it, confidentiality would have to be violated, but you are totally incorrect.
The offer was made, it was offered to us in a deal to drop the recall, and your sources are wrong.
Dr. Lutz
I tell you I trust my sources alot more then I do a person would hide behide his board name. Revel your real name let all see who you are. We need to hold everyone accountable inclueding Sam has he only attended one board meeting last year. The Vice Presidents are not doing there jobs so let remove them as well. Maybe Sam is not doing his job in order to make Nancy look bad maybe Old Sam has a bad case of sour grapes losing by one vote.
What did you do to get so many FC to sign lose of membership there. No lesson. Well the more I dig the more this stinks as a power grab.
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