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stealingophelia · 12-11-2005, 09:43 PM

we all know that coaches can get students who fence well into college, but does the same apply for transfer students? are athletics considered for transfer admission?
thanks guyss

keropie · 12-11-2005, 09:57 PM

So, yes, coaches can get transfer students in, depending on a variety of factors. However, if you're not on the points list (WC points would be a big plus), or of similar competitive quality and known to be of the quality, don't hold your breath. Additionally, most/all schools still have academic qualifications for transfer students even if they do receive an admission spot. Ivy League schools have high standards still (big shock) and many conferences (the ACC being the one I'm familiar with) still have regulations above and beyond what the NCAA requires. I will say this, if you are looking to transfer to a school to fence on a NCAA team (oh yeah, and if it's a club team, the coach will have no pull with admissions), go ahead and start the NCAA clearinghouse process if you haven't already done it. Save yourself some grief later on.

HDG · 12-12-2005, 12:42 AM

You'll find much of what you need here.

Tomas N · 12-12-2005, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by keropie

(oh yeah, and if it's a club team, the coach will have no pull with admissions)

This, I think, is too sweeping a generality. It could be that coaches have no pull with admissions in some places. It depends on the working relationship. I would guess that some club coaches have tremendous pull with admissions.

Tomas

MyrddinsPrecint · 12-12-2005, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Tomas N

This, I think, is too sweeping a generality. It could be that coaches have no pull with admissions in some places. It depends on the working relationship. I would guess that some club coaches have tremendous pull with admissions.

Tomas

at Smith, the general group of club sports teams are refered to as the "red-headed stepchild"............ no one wants us. no one.

if my coach walked into admissions, they would give him a blank stare and ask him what he was doing there.

i can't imagine it's much better at Umass, in fact, it's probably worse.

i would imagine that somewhere there's an administrative way of dealing with clubs so that the club coaches might have more power...... and i'm interested to see what the administrative layout would be.......... because i can't imagine one. but that's probably due to my minimal experience with colleges organized from the top down rather than from the bottom up....

KD5MDK · 12-12-2005, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Tomas N

This, I think, is too sweeping a generality. It could be that coaches have no pull with admissions in some places. It depends on the working relationship. I would guess that some club coaches have tremendous pull with admissions.

Tomas

Perhaps there is a college where a club coach has influence on admissions, but I've never heard of one. I won't rule it out, but it seems unlikely.

keropie · 12-12-2005, 02:41 PM

It's honestly beyond unlikely that any Institute of Higher Learning would deviate from it's normal admissions guidelines based on one's ability to perform in a club sport. And honestly, that's what we're really talking about. If the club coach happens to be on the admissions board, and there is a marginal case, maybe there they could sway some opinion, but club athletics is not going to get you into school somewhere.

stealingophelia · 12-12-2005, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by keropie

It's honestly beyond unlikely that any Institute of Higher Learning would deviate from it's normal admissions guidelines based on one's ability to perform in a club sport. And honestly, that's what we're really talking about. If the club coach happens to be on the admissions board, and there is a marginal case, maybe there they could sway some opinion, but club athletics is not going to get you into school somewhere.

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Tomas N · 01-20-2006, 09:55 PM

Well, at Allegheny, where I teach and also happen to be the advisor of the fencing club, if a high school senior or junior is interested in applying and also has some fencing background, I'll often meet with him or her. I'll also often write a note or talk with someone in admissions about the meeting. It's more than just fencing that will get you into the school, but it certainly helps if someone at the school is pulling for you. I admit it's different at a smaller liberal arts school than it would be at a larger state school. It's also different because my influence on campus derives from being a member of the faculty, not being the fencing coach.

Tomas

smurfette · 01-20-2006, 10:07 PM

If the club coach is not a member of the faculty, then it will not impact admissions directly in any way (besides being an "extra-curricular"). But I imagine you are not asking about club sports, are you, Stealing Ophelia?

stealingophelia · 01-21-2006, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by smurfette

If the club coach is not a member of the faculty, then it will not impact admissions directly in any way (besides being an "extra-curricular"). But I imagine you are not asking about club sports, are you, Stealing Ophelia?

i was asking about both

Feltan · 01-21-2006, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by KD5MDK

Perhaps there is a college where a club coach has influence on admissions, but I've never heard of one. I won't rule it out, but it seems unlikely.

That was exactly the situation I was in while in college. Our club coach, who fencid with us more than coached us, was a big wheel in town -- owned the newspaper, big donor, etc. He could get anyone through admissions within reason, but there was no scholarship money involved.

Regards,
Feltan