12-10-2005, 04:01 AM
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| make your own pistol grips...
Hey the other thread about Z's grips gave me an idea. How hard would it be to make your own molds? What would that entail?
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12-12-2005, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by fatfencer Hey the other thread about Z's grips gave me an idea. How hard would it be to make your own molds? What would that entail?
Fatfencer | We actually used to do that. First time I saw Russian grip, I thought that was a blank for adjusting individually. You can do that with saw and file, or you can make a mold of your hand (in a glove, mind you) and cast a grip for yourself (pewter and lead are probably the easiest materials for casting, but the weight ... - anyway there are people who know tons more than me about this in this forum, so I'll shut up now).
All of my grips are Russian grips, customized with a file - nothing excessive, though.
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12-12-2005, 02:19 PM
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| You're a strange one... fatfencer. Can you not find a grip out of the million of varieties out there already that fits your hand?
I think it would take less effort if you just find one close to what you like and use a file like needle did with his russians, and give it an even better feel.
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12-12-2005, 03:05 PM
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| Hey, even Golubitsky tweaks his Belgium grip (see LP site). Instead of re-inventing the wheel, I customized my Belgium grip w/ epoxy and basically ended up w/ one molded to my own hand. (I always heat and bend the tang away from my wrist on all my Belgiums)
I use bulk epoxy (2:1 Aluzine or equiv. as found @ surfboard shop suppliers or elsewhere) mixed w/ admixtures like micro balloons which produces a very light weight glob that looks like firm whipped cream, but molds like modeling clay. First I brushed straight epoxy on the grip for adhesion, then while still wet, roughly applied a bunch of the balloon mix to the grip and prongs. Wearing a rubber glove, I then grabbed the grip and held on, pushing and buttering the mix where I wanted it to go and scraping away the squeeze out w/ a tounge depressor. In a few mins. the epoxy cures stiff enough to let go. Another hour and it's hard enough to take a flexible shaft grinder to to clean up and shape to what feels good. Hard micro balloon mixture carves almost like clay with a grinder, real easy to customize. My finished product looks like a visconti w/ organic 'webs' between the elements, and yes, it does fit like a glove. You notice that there's alot more of the grip in contact with your hand (especially the palm), and you can definately relax your hand more and still retain control, so that's a good thing. In fact, I believe there is more point control w/ this grip compared w/ a generic grip. With this thing hugging your hand, you might wonder if it's too good a fit, maybe a little more freedom is good for a wide range of movements. | 
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12-12-2005, 03:20 PM
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| i've always wondered why (at least for foil) there isn't some sort of kit out there--- crayola makes clay that hardens with exposure to air, it strikes me that someone could create a substance that would somehow work that you could mold yourself and then harden yourself.
then again, i only fence sabre, so i've always just assumed that it was one of those things that wasn't a big issue if you were actually involved......
i have noticed that some people express their dislike for grips that are TOO comfortable, so that could have something to do with it.
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12-12-2005, 03:50 PM
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| Just wondering if anyone has tried to do something creative with sabre grips? | |
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12-12-2005, 04:28 PM
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| Somewhere knocking about the armory we actually have some wooden prototype 'ortho' saber grips made by everybody's favorite fencing equipment guy, Walter Triplette. They're still basically straight, but have some finger grooves in them. I'm not planning on ever switching, fwiw  | |
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12-12-2005, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Jvanhousen Hey, even Golubitsky tweaks his Belgium grip (see LP site). | I don't see the point in the new Golubitsky grip, loads of fencers do exactly the same thing with tape which can be made to fit exactly at much less expense.
IMO people are buying the name rather than the product. | |
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12-12-2005, 05:05 PM
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If that's what you want to do, this site should give you more than enough information www.backyardmetalcasting.com | |
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12-12-2005, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by keropie Somewhere knocking about the armory we actually have some wooden prototype 'ortho' saber grips made by everybody's favorite fencing equipment guy, Walter Triplette. They're still basically straight, but have some finger grooves in them. I'm not planning on ever switching, fwiw | AFS used to offer something similar back in the '80s. | |
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12-17-2005, 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by _fence(1) Just wondering if anyone has tried to do something creative with sabre grips? | Has someone done it, as shown above yes. Has anyone done it legally, then the answer would be No. Look at M.4.6. Notice it does not say this rule is only for Epee and Foil. How many Sabreist would be willing to not be able to hold at the back or move their hand about?
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12-17-2005, 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by _fence(1) Just wondering if anyone has tried to do something creative with sabre grips? | As an experiment, about a year ago, I put a pistol grip on a sabre.
It was no problem getting it on, but it just doesn't work for fencing sabre - lots of attacks with the point but cuts are much more akward to do. | |
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