Fencing in Singapore

[Nick84]

Hi, im Nick..been fencing for 1.5 years now.Currently looking for a place to continue my fencing training in singapore
Anyone know any good fencing coaches or associations in singapore i should join up with?
Thanx

[I live to FENCE]

Yo dude. I'm from singapore too. Where did you pick up fencing? Yeah, i heard Z is kinda good, they have great coaches and all that but i heard the prices they charge are kinda steep. Did you start in school or in a club? Maybe one of these days i might even fence you. Heck, i might have even fenced you before... Haha

[Nick84]

Yeah i joined a club in Australia.when i was studyin there.
Of late i heard a lot of bad things abt Z fencing like it being more of a money making business than a real club. Have u heard of fencing masters? I heard jeffrey lopez the coach is gd?

What made u decide to fence epee?

[I live to FENCE]

Okay. I don't really know much about Z except what i previously posted. FM is a pretty good club from what i've heard i've been to the competitions they organise. The fencers there are good although i have to say their facilities really suck. The pistes are not of regulation length and the place is puny. It actually is a warehouse at Ubi. Most of their fencers fence epee only and their mostly from ITE Balestier. There is a comp their organizing next sunday(18 Dec) at Clementi Sportshall( thank god!) which i'll be attending.


I started fencing epee in sec 2. I'm in sec 3 now. I didn't relly like foil cos of ROW. The first comp i went to all i did was stop hit. Haha, maybe i was born to fence epee. Sabre? No thank you! Haha... Do drop by to have a look see next sat. Cheers

Edit: Jeffrey Lopez(JLo) seems like a pretty good coach although i've never seen him coach. You can see his credentials at FM's website. Just Google it up.

[asdfasfd]

don't join z, it's just a profit making org. and you learn nothing in the end of the day. they will suck your blood for money.

[InfernoXV]

Mæstro Jeff's pretty good - better than the folks at Z Fencing, certainly, who consider the whole thing to be a money-spinner, rather than a means of training character and discipline.

[epeefencer74]

Come on guys fair is fair, both places exists to make money, they are commercial clubs. The coaches at Z are more than competent, but they are more focused on kids. They have their credentials, and I must admit they have their business process set out better than FM.

Lest you think I'm a Z fencing member, and offering a biased opinion, I am not. I am the head coach of SJI and I've been with Jeff for a very long time now, 16 years to be exact, and I will say that he is a very good coach, but he's no maestro, no one in Singapore is qualified to have that title. I've been trained by Jeff and I've been trained by 2 maestros, The difference is telling.

Jeff is as competent a 3 weapon coach as you are likely to meet in Singapore. He will be able to take you up to national level competition if you so wish. Jeff is focused on training adults and young adults. A large part of FM is epee but there are some v.good foilist there, if you go on Mondays and Sundays you'll find them. You'll find that the next national epee team will be made up of FM members. FM used to have some good sabreurs but they seemed to have either switched weapons or moved on to the National team.

[epeefencer74]

Yeah i joined a club in Australia.when i was studyin there.
Of late i heard a lot of bad things abt Z fencing like it being more of a money making business than a real club. Have u heard of fencing masters? I heard jeffrey lopez the coach is gd?

What made u decide to fence epee?

Whereabouts in Australia did you fence? I fenced for UWA when I was studying there, I was fortunate enough that there were 2 visiting maestros from the UK there when I was there.

[asdfasfd]

more focused on kids ?
don't make me laugh.
they are leeching off the kid's rich parents. if you do not know about already, kids who train there for years still reminds the same skill level as they were when they join. the so called coaches will say they are not good enough to advance and carries on to leech the cash off while doing nothing about their fencing.

this is why they like kids so much, easier to steal candy from a kid right ?

[epeefencer74]

I am going to have to disagree with you on that opinion.

In my present cohort, I have 4 boys who are with Z fencing. They are studying in SJI and have joined fencing as their CCA. I can see that they have very strong basics, 2 of whom I expect to do very well in the coming competitions. One of whom has already won medals for the School. Since I've only had them for 2 years, I don't think it's quite right for me and my assistant coaches to claim all credit.

I don't know how you've come to that opinion and I don't know what your credentials are. I'm simply stating what I see and what I know.

I say again that both clubs, FM and Z exist for profit. There is nothing wrong with that. I would also remind you that I am a member of FM and NOT of Z. Once you are clear of the positions of both these clubs, there can be no false expectations.

I know the coaches there, one of whom was a participant in the bacelona olympics and all of whom have taken part and won at SEA and Asian games level, albeit many years ago, that is still quite an achievement.

more focused on kids ?
don't make me laugh.
they are leeching off the kid's rich parents. if you do not know about already, kids who train there for years still reminds the same skill level as they were when they join. the so called coaches will say they are not good enough to advance and carries on to leech the cash off while doing nothing about their fencing.

this is why they like kids so much, easier to steal candy from a kid right ?

[Aqua_volans]

FM definitely. I am training there regularly and i think that the coach there is tolerant of alot of mistakes. very different from certain coaches like(im not saying anyone) will say"hes hopeless, he has no fencing future, i'm not going to seriously train him because it won;t make much of a difference"

[asdfasfd]

[QUOTE=epeefencer74]I am going to have to disagree with you on that opinion.

it is not an opinion but a fact. disagree all you want, i know you like disagreeing a lot.

there are far more people agreeing with me on this facts. also, i can guess that what you see and what you know are quite limited.

so you do agree that they do it for profit, i rest my case.

[Aqua_volans]

good basics, OF COURSE THEY HAVE GOOD BASICS, their coaches go ON AND ON AND ON on the same old basics... and saying they are not good enough to advance to the next level... see the link between your arguments. anyway we are not being unfair. facts stay facts. no matter how you put it

[Aqua_volans]

I am going to have to disagree with you on that opinion.

In my present cohort, I have 4 boys who are with Z fencing. They are studying in SJI and have joined fencing as their CCA. I can see that they have very strong basics, 2 of whom I expect to do very well in the coming competitions. One of whom has already won medals for the School. Since I've only had them for 2 years, I don't think it's quite right for me and my assistant coaches to claim all credit.

I don't know how you've come to that opinion and I don't know what your credentials are. I'm simply stating what I see and what I know.

I say again that both clubs, FM and Z exist for profit. There is nothing wrong with that. I would also remind you that I am a member of FM and NOT of Z. Once you are clear of the positions of both these clubs, there can be no false expectations.

I know the coaches there, one of whom was a participant in the bacelona olympics and all of whom have taken part and won at SEA and Asian games level, albeit many years ago, that is still quite an achievement.

STONG BASICS OF COURSE read my earlier post in case you did not get what i meant in that post

[epeefencer74]

STONG BASICS OF COURSE read my earlier post in case you did not get what i meant in that post

Hey Morgan, it pays to be polite on the net, especially when you never know who you are talking to. That's right I know you, and you know me too. Just go back and read my post CAREFULLY to figure out who I am.

And get your so called facts right. Any of the foil juniors from Z who study in SJI can beat your lazy footwork any day, because they have good basic. YOU don't even have that.

[Aqua_volans]

keep it private and i know exactly who you are d00d. oh yes and caoch jeff has seen this thread. i showed it to him ^^

oh yes and please keep it personal. i don't like blackmail but i will resort to it if forced.

keep it private and i know exactly who you are d00d. oh yes and caoch jeff has seen this thread. i showed it to him ^^

someone else told me specifically infernoXV who informed me of EXACTLY who you are.

[Craig]

Calm down, stop the ad hominem attacks or I close this thread and start some banning.

Craig

[Aqua_volans]

my apologies. i kinda lost my head in anger. ^^

[Aqua_volans]

oh wait i forgot to specify my apologies were to craig XD

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Z Fencing is a fine club with 3 Salles. One of which is specifically for children under 12. They are extremely professional in their service and are a tad classy as well.

Fencing Masters (FM) is also a competent club who's salle may seem a little less attractive as it is located in a warehouse. They have good fencing standards and large pool of fencers.

I have been to both and personally I prefer Z. Clean and professional, the way most will like it. Moreover, they have more coaches and may be a tad better at suiting your needs.