Bush's speech

[Gav]

BBC World Affairs Editor, in Baghdad, John Simpson's view of "victory".

[oiuyt]

Further, the political track is centred around establishing a strong central government, something the founding fathers of the US itself realised was exactly the wrong way to go when building a strong independent nation.

You mean founding fathers such as Washington, Adams, and Hamilton?

Jefferson and Madison were not in favor of a strong central (federal) government, but it's disingenuous at best to try to claim that the founding fathers as a whole were against such.

-B

[umbrella]

Frankly, I am surprised that no one has started a thread on this yet;
US to detail 'Iraq victory plan'

A copy of the strategy document is available for downloading and reading. I've had a brief skim until I can get around to reading it properly.

Gavin; I hope my spelling is okay, esp on this old rickety machine, but the way I see it so far, is that everyone is sick and tird of screaming about Bush. If Scotland was hit by Middleeast it would have retaliated. Frankly I'm surprised at your lack of Scotsmanlike defense; considering how a plane, loaded with over 300 people was downed over Scotland all passengers dead not more than 13 years ago. Since it's such 'old' news, those 300 people prolly don't matter, but they do. One of my other issues is the total lack of feeling the students demonstrate towards helpless people caught inbetween political squabbling. The women show no consideration whatsoever; continuing in foolish idiotic party like behavior, while the males dance around screaming that it's all Bush's fault.

Since I lived and worked in Manhatten I feel better able to describe what the events leading to 911 were all about. First, I was in the city when the WTC was first attacked in 1993; a failed attempt; we did not anticipate another strike. The people who attacked the building in the first place were caught in Chicago, hiding in an 'international' flavored coffee apartment complex. Two of them murdered their teenage daughter for wearing western attire. The fact that we are embroiled in this horrible conflict does not make life easier. But should life be easier? Students attend universities to learn how to serve the nation. How to teach, nurse, doctor, and keep businesses thriving in their areas. The fact that they cannot keep things working in their own backyard, and insist upon 'travelling' to other nations shows me, and others that they have an arrogant attitude. This goes for everybody; the entire planet is populated by arrogant people.

Why spend trillions of dollars again, on military budgets; and refuse to take care of homegrown people? it's simply arrogance. "Those" homeless people; "those horrible people without money" I am sick of watching crybabies pick their noses, and rip open their velcro wallets to show everyone their five dollars. Give it a rest and take care of the 50,000 people recently flooded out of their homes as well as the 28,000 men and women recently laid off from their jobs in the midwest.

The reason this has happened is because the Department of Labor, systematically dismantled the One Stop Centers and their budgets out of greed, and the desire to spend money on imported people who are in many respects traitors.

The thing that we're sick of seeing the Bush's do is wear those stupid clothes and the maroon/gold royal theme is getting tiresome. I was irate at watching Tina Turner as guest appearance.

[jeff]

Hmmm, somebody seems to have gone off their meds.... not to mention forgetting that the invasion of Iraq really had nothing to do with 9/11. Dragging Lockerbie into it (and forgetting the place name?) is just repulsive.