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[L.O.A.S.]

Just came across this story that I found both amusing and disturbing:

http://www.drudgereport.com/flash3cnc.htm

I don't know if subliminal messages work, but if so, it explains alot about why certain individuals (who I assume watch lots of CNN) are so against the current administration. Makes me wonder what I'm picking up on Fox though. Well I'm hungry.....off to get some freedom fries. Go GW!

[lochinvar]

Subliminal messages have been shown time and again to be ineffective.

As for why Certain Individuals are against the current administration, their actions are a far more effective spur to opposition than any subliminal X on a TV screen.

And, for the record, I don't watch either CNN or Fox News.

[jeff]

Not to mention how Matt Drudge has frequently been found to (ahem) just make stuff up.

See for example http://demlog.blogspot.com/2005/10/d...-subpoena.html which refers to a Drudge claim a month ago that Fitzgerald was about to subpeona Cheney, and comments that "If this link does not work, because Drudge Report has a habit of removing links when their stories turn out false"

[RebelFencer]

I didn't realize incompetence was subliminal.

[Amadeus]

This is creating alot of dissaproval for the administration, because obviously, a black x that appears on the television screen creates more disapproval than the 2,000 deaths in a war that we're not fighting for any coherent reason.

[L.O.A.S.]

This is creating alot of dissaproval for the administration, because obviously, a black x that appears on the television screen creates more disapproval than the 2,000 deaths in a war that we're not fighting for any coherent reason.

You must get that from MSNBC.

[Amadeus]

You must get that from MSNBC.

yes, actually, they told me to post that using a subliminal message.

[Gav]

Subliminal Advertising

Nuff said really.

[Anari]

If I may (If not, sorry), I would like to ask that if subliminal advertising does not work, then why was 'The Exorcist' so scary apparently because of very short frames in the film. I saw the R rated version when I was about 7 staying over at a friends place and he had retrieved a copy and we watched it. I thought it was really scary (combination of me being 7 and good little Catholic boy), but when I tried to sleep that night, I kept seeing images of a scary face and it really got to me, in fact it really, really, really freaked me out. The point though is that although I saw them, I didn't have enough time to actually interpret what I saw, I just felt fear. Then later on that night I began to see the images. I recently saw the redone version and I'm a little happier now that I can actually put the pictures down to 'Oh they were actually on the film.' I think that while 'subliminal messages' are a bit of a farce, I think that split-second flashes of images do work and have an effect. I never got to see the Exorcist again for 7 years...and I could never tell my parents that I'd seen it (I'd get into lots of trouble lol). So assuming that's correct and I'm not an idiot (which is possible), does that mean the same could hold true for this case? Where we feel negatively towards the American administration when we 'saw' it? I'm just asking, based on my experiences (limited as they may be).

[Gav]

If I may (If not, sorry), I would like to ask that if subliminal advertising does not work, then why was 'The Exorcist' so scary apparently because of very short frames in the film. I saw the R rated version when I was about 7 staying over at a friends place and he had retrieved a copy and we watched it. I thought it was really scary (combination of me being 7 and good little Catholic boy), but when I tried to sleep that night, I kept seeing images of a scary face and it really got to me, in fact it really, really, really freaked me out. The point though is that although I saw them, I didn't have enough time to actually interpret what I saw, I just felt fear. Then later on that night I began to see the images. I recently saw the redone version and I'm a little happier now that I can actually put the pictures down to 'Oh they were actually on the film.' I think that while 'subliminal messages' are a bit of a farce, I think that split-second flashes of images do work and have an effect. I never got to see the Exorcist again for 7 years...and I could never tell my parents that I'd seen it (I'd get into lots of trouble lol). So assuming that's correct and I'm not an idiot (which is possible), does that mean the same could hold true for this case? Where we feel negatively towards the American administration when we 'saw' it? I'm just asking, based on my experiences (limited as they may be).

Why on eath were watching the exorcist when you were 7?


2 things.

1. The face that you saw may, or may not, be the images you supposed ly couldn't process. Fear does strange things to your head, at age 7 your fear may well have prompted you to see things. I admit to having had nightmares when very young because of films I shouldn't have watched (in my case The Thing).
2. The mythology surrounding this particular movie combined with the inherent unreliability of human memory means that what you remember could be based on your expectations rather than actual events.

Neither of these points says anything about your intelligence. A number of very intelligent people believe very strangethings.

What you are referring to is known as anecdotal evidence. It's what keeps most superstitions and pseudo scientific fluff alive.

Want to read more:
Subliminal Messages
Anecdotal Evidence

[Anari]

Why on eath were watching the exorcist when you were 7?


2 things.

1. The face that you saw may, or may not, be the images you supposed ly couldn't process. Fear does strange things to your head, at age 7 your fear may well have prompted you to see things. I admit to having had nightmares when very young because of films I shouldn't have watched (in my case The Thing).
2. The mythology surrounding this particular movie combined with the inherent unreliability of human memory means that what you remember could be based on your expectations rather than actual events.

Neither of these points says anything about your intelligence. A number of very intelligent people believe very strangethings.

What you are referring to is known as anecdotal evidence. It's what keeps most superstitions and pseudo scientific fluff alive.

Want to read more:
Subliminal Messages
Anecdotal Evidence

Well, I was watching it cause I knew my parents wouldn't let me and my friend thought it was funny not scary...I never disobeyed my parents on films ever again!!!

On the first point, that may be quite correct and makes a lot of sense but the faces that I saw in the remake seem very similar to what I was seeing (or thought I saw) when I was 7. Maybe it was just expectations but it was coincidental, lol.

On the second point, I didn't know that scenes were integrated into The Exorcist when i was 7, I was just told, 'Don't watch it.' But then again, because I was expecting fear, maybe it was a fear of demons that brought the thoughts to mind, I don't really know lol.

Anecdotal evidence: Well, as I said lol, I wasn't preaching I was just asking as to whether the experiences had meaning but this link really shot me down hehe.

Thanks for the reply!