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Old 11-14-2005, 09:46 PM   #1
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how are france lames?

i know FL went out of business in 2001, but i saw triplette selling the FL blades at a pretty cheap price at triplette. my coach mentioned that france lame blades are very good...but i dont think he has been up with the times recently because he doesnt know that the company closed down. since they're pretty cheap, would it be intereresting to spend some money on a few of their blades? and how is the stuff in general? is it worth the money?
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One of the things they did before they closed down was sell blades they claimed to be FIE but weren't. That combined with Triplette's less then quality reputation for, well, quality, says to me "Do not touch".
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Old 11-14-2005, 10:04 PM   #3
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France lames blades are VERY flicky.
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Old 11-14-2005, 10:16 PM   #4
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The stock of FL blades that TCA has are left from before the company (FL) went under. They have been trying to move them for several years now at very reduced rates. Note that the saber blades I have seen ARE NOT S 2000 and if they are not stamped as such don't believe that they are. Having said that, the foils and epee's from that time (the last couple of years before FL closed down) are pretty iffy. FL used to be one of the top blade producers around but the quality control went straight to hell.

I have picked out a few of the TCA FL epee's for fencers that love to flick and they have held up well, especially for the price, but as I said I hand picked them. I would not order them site unseen or if you don't know what to look for even trust them picking them out at a stall if that is your whole blade budget. You are probably better off going for an StM blade unless you are willing to play the TCA/FL lottery. If you do you may get a blade that lasts for a long time, but you may go through 2 or 3 that snap like twigs before you find one like that.
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I'm interested in buying one of the counterfeit FIE blades for the novelty of it, but that's purely a matter of whimsey, not belief in them.
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The FL that I bought from TCA has lasted about a year now, and despite periodic tip screw replacement there has been nothing wrong with them. I just ordered 3 more for replacements when my others go out.
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I have a couple of F/L Maraging (FIE) wired foil blades left over. They are much more flexible than BF Blue Maragings, for example.

PM me if anyone is interested.
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Rust and more rust.

I have a non-FIE France Lame Epee blade which rusts despite every effort to keep it clean and oiled. It seems to rust moments after it is cleaned. While my Allstar non-FIE almost never has the slightest tarnish. The FL can be a bit of a noodle by comparison to the Allstar but has survived some serious bends without breaking or taking any permanent curves.
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Like Mizore said, I HAD a FL blade that I had to scrub every day in order to prevent it from turning brown from rust. Towards the end of its life span, it became so unstable, it had to be straightened after every hit. Eventually during a bout, my opponent executed a beat attack that broke the FL in half. The beat attack was a normal beat attack, but the blade had had enough and retired itself.
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Old 11-17-2005, 10:15 AM   #10
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I tried to order some of the "Fake" FIE FL blades from TCA a long while ago and they said they didn't have any. This was epee tho....
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I think I still have one of the fake FIEs in one of my old cases chillin at home. It is very flicky. As far as foil blades go though, the FL Maraging have treated me well, I have one from '99 that's undergone more abuse than most people's foils on a regular basis and still functions well, has no kinks, and is plenty stiff enough to not have a negative effect on point control. You can get the new FL/Prieur blades if you want...the blue foil ones aren't bad and the epee blades are not that noodly if you pick wisely...
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