Another question fromt he curious!

[Inquartata]

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Helvetica, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Helvetica, Arial">Originally posted by veeco:
<strong>On the other hand, it's now possible to get an A without even beating one. Granted, there has to be 64 fencers in that competition... So that doesn't seem likely to happen in your division...</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Helvetica, Arial">Yeah, and a B without any B's in the competition. Both are pretty much in the realm of the moot point in my neck of the woods... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="frown.gif" />

[135711]

i absolutely see the difference, but i think it's the luck of the draw. unless everything in the sport is revised i see no other way to become rated.

[Purple Fencer]

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Helvetica, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Helvetica, Arial">Originally posted by oiuyt:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Helvetica, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Helvetica, Arial">I;ve never understood WHY the E ratings aren't on the chart for the A1 and A2 events</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Helvetica, Arial">Sam- for a very good reason. Let's consider the old chart (or the new A1 for that matter). It only requires 15 people. Depending on which system D's went down to 8 or 9. How far down are you going to allow E's? A reasonable break would be E's down to 12, but then you could have a 15 person tournament with everyone except for the 3 worst receiving ratings. They SHOULD cut off at the 8 level and not allow E's. It's nice that the new system allows for the A2 level (okay, technically the B2 level) to extend that a bit more for slightly larger (ie non-marginal) tournaments.

I think the new system clears up a problem that existed (the fact that 18 person tournaments gave out the same ratings as 45 person tournaments) but leaves many other problems still out there (a tournament with 2 A's is the same level as one with 8 A's, a flukey pool and/or DE bout can move someone up one or even two rating levels, the ratings quanta are still too large, ratings are still luck/right opportunity based to a large degree). The problem is most of the remaining problems would require something like the move to a numeric system (a la chess, such as the one discussed, approved, and never implemented back around 1997ish) which massively adds to overhead. I'm sure that if people can come up with good suggestions for how to improve the current system that DON'T require massive change that the National office would love to hear them and would forward them as appropriate to the correct committee(s).

-B </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Helvetica, Arial">I see your point, but the E's are passed out in group B2, but not A2. They're BOTH 25 or more people events. I can't see the sense in being able to earn an E at a B level event, but NOT in a stronger A level.

[Purple Fencer]

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Helvetica, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Helvetica, Arial">Well, I found the page. Your name is not even on it. Talk to Derek about getting your name onto the list. If you didn't do well on the practical, at least you should have a 5 or maybe lower.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Helvetica, Arial">I've already done so. I know I botched the foil (Bill Oliver observing) but I did well enough on the epee (Ralph Zimmerman observing...and he walked away after the third bout) to be used on several Div I women's epee DEs, and the Vet Men's epee for one pool and up through the round of 16 in DE. I should be able to get SOMETHING for that. I showed up and did MY job...the ball was dropped at National's end. I wouldn't mind directing at events outside SoCal -- Evan Ranes asked me if I could go to Vegas last year for Duel -- but not until I know what my rating is.

[sallearmourer]

Bill needs to work on the ratings. Its show me with a 8 in foil. That pretty good consider the fact that I have never take the written exam or the practical for foil. Its showed Adelia with a 5 in foil and a 7 in sabre when it the other way around it's a five in sabre and 7 in foil.

Tim