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    Fencing Broadcast videos?

    Hello folks.

    I'm not that very knowledgable at fencing but I have to do an assignment involve one.

    If you have read Shakespeare's Hamlet, the last scene of the play consists of a fencing match between Laertes and Hamlet. My assignment is to create a radio broadcast documenting the match as it unfolds.

    I don't know if stations and networks actually broadcast fencing matches (even in the Olympics), but I'd like some help from you guys.

    a.)
    If possible, can you refer me to a site or a link of a broadcast of a fencing match? Even if it's short. I've already seen the 'homemade' fencing videos on this site, but they aren't what I'm looking for.

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    b.)
    For those who have watched fencing on television, can you describe to me a common broadcast? Like, what do they normally say as the match begins?

    "Player A advances with a swift jab at Player B" e.t.c.

    Any help will be greatly appreciated.

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    Good job finding this site- I'm sure others will help you out better than me.

    As far as a real broadcast goes, I'd have no idea where to find one.

    Now for phrases, I can give you a few ideas...

    Fencer A attacks, Fencer B parries and ripostes to score the touch!

    Fencer A attacks, Fencer B parries, Fencer A parries Fencer B's riposte and scores on the counter-riposte.

    Fencer A attacks in the low-line and disengages to the high-line to get the touch.

    Fencer A takes the blade in a prise-de-fir attack and scores the touch on Fencer B

    Just insert Hamlet and the other guy as fencer A/B

    I'm not quite sure if this is what you're really looking for, but if you throw in a bunch of fencing terminology like Attack, Parry, Riposte, Prise de fir, Counter 6 bind, Fleche, you'll probably do well.

    I could give more info, but I'm tired, so that's all you get tonight.

    Good luck on the report...
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    Check

    www.fencingchannel.com

    Click on the recently completed WC.

    Alternatively,

    www.wcns.com buy the subscription for the WC


    Lastly,

    http://shop.fencing.net/product_p/fn-02mewc.htm
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    nearly all fencing footage is somewhat homemade.

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    Thanks Cha.

    I'm just curious as what to those definitions mean.

    -parries
    -riposte
    -counter-riposte
    -low-line and high-line (I'm assuming low part and high part of the body?)
    -prise-de-fir
    -Counter 6 bind
    -Fleche

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    I'll try to define them...

    -parries - deflecting an attacker's thrust

    -riposte - after parrying, the subsequent thrust by the fencer who parried

    -counter-riposte - after parrying an opponents riposte, the subsequent thrust by the one who parried

    -low-line and high-line - (good assumption) yes, low part and high part of the body

    -prise-de-fir - to take the blade (not sure the actual translation), to take control of the opponent's blade, make sure it doesnt hit you and make sure you can hit them

    -Counter 6 bind - a specific prise-de-fir action. It's like making a counter clockwise circle with your blade, pushing your opponent's weapon out of the way so you can hit him

    -Fleche - An all-out attack in which the entire body is thrown forward at the opponent. Sword first, of course


    Hope that gets you somewhere. I swear there's a dictionary of all these terms somewhere on fencing.net... maybe i'm wrong, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chafunkta
    I'll try to define them...

    -parries - deflecting an attacker's thrust

    -riposte - after parrying, the subsequent thrust by the fencer who parried

    -counter-riposte - after parrying an opponents riposte, the subsequent thrust by the one who parried

    -low-line and high-line - (good assumption) yes, low part and high part of the body

    -prise-de-fir - to take the blade (not sure the actual translation), to take control of the opponent's blade, make sure it doesnt hit you and make sure you can hit them

    -Counter 6 bind - a specific prise-de-fir action. It's like making a counter clockwise circle with your blade, pushing your opponent's weapon out of the way so you can hit him

    -Fleche - An all-out attack in which the entire body is thrown forward at the opponent. Sword first, of course


    Hope that gets you somewhere. I swear there's a dictionary of all these terms somewhere on fencing.net... maybe i'm wrong, though.
    Thanks a lot lad, I appreciate the help!

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    By the way, if I wanted to say something like,

    "Hamlet cautiously approaches Laertes…Laertes parries Hamlet as they continue to the right. Laertes quickly ripostes..."

    Is "Laertes quickly ripostes" feasible? Also, how do you pronounce 'riposte'?

    -Ree-pawst
    -ree-post

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    Hi Asdf,

    re :the pronounciation of Riposte. "re-pawst" would be the closest.

    Ususally one fencer attacks first and the other parries(intercepts with his own blade) then ripostes(attacks once he has deflected the initial attack)

    ie:
    "Hamlet makes a swift lunge towards Laertes torso and Laertes parries the attack nimbly and quickly ripostes while Hamlet's blade is out of position."

    Also, it's not "prise the fir" but prise the fer. "Fer" being the french word for steel.

    fer = fair
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    I would like to suggest something a little different.

    As many here know, there is a big difference between stage fencing and real fencing. The former is a highly stylized dance performed at full tempo, with each participant aware of and anticipating his partner's movements. The latter is a game of deceit and trickery that attempts to get an opponent to make a mistake and lose.

    If memory serves, the Laertes/Hamlet duel isn't really a duel. Its a fencing game played non-lethally in front of the King, (well, except there's poison on one blade, but its a set up). So, here's the idea:

    Find someone who can choreograph (compose) a stage fight using swords and play it out with actor. Use the resulting composition as a basis for your description.

    Short of this, there's always Warlord of Mars by Edgar Rice Boroughs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twinkletoes
    Hi Asdf,

    re :the pronounciation of Riposte. "re-pawst" would be the closest.
    Or, down here, "re-post".

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