10-31-2005, 02:17 PM
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| Alito
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10-31-2005, 02:56 PM
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| http://media.pfaw.org/stc/AlitoPreliminary.pdf
Haven't read it all. I definitely don't like his dissent in Planned Parenthood v. Casey.
On dailykos, somebody's got a journal regarding an opinion upholding strip searches of 10 year-old girls. Didn't look at details. Michelle Malkin quotes a bunch of fawning born-agains. Nothing to see here, yet.
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10-31-2005, 03:13 PM
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#3 | | Din Älskling
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| He is an denizen of the conservative right and will usher in the theocracy that the Ultra-fundamental Christian Right have been praying to God about for decades.
Just kidding. I'm still parsing the info. Doesn't look like he's likely to slash and burn precedent but would be happy to bleed it slowly to death. He'll have about 20 good years to do so.
Of course, if the Christian Right is happy with him, that in itself is a good enough reason to fight long and hard against him. 
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10-31-2005, 03:52 PM
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| Alito will be confirmed.
I am a prophet. No further questions, thank you...
No amount of internet moaning will be able to stop this nomination from being confirmed.
Yes, there will be a fight, but barring scandle - the left doesn't have the tools to stop the process.
An interesting aside, is the fact that the left will not be able to raise significant funds to make much public noise.
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10-31-2005, 03:54 PM
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| i don't like this guy. why? cuz he's a conservative.
i don't trust conservatives.
ok, fine, maybe that's a limited viewpoint. but it's the way it is.
also, alito is a weird name. | |
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10-31-2005, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Epee Yes, there will be a fight, but barring scandle - the left doesn't have the tools to stop the process.
| I'm not so sure, myself. Despite the "extraordinary circumstances" clause in the filibuster deal, there may well be enough moderate Republicans willing to go over to the Dems on this one to block him. Especially given that unlike Roberts and Miers this nominee has a long public record to attack and bicker and bargain over...
I think it's going to be a bumpy ride. Maybe that's the idea: make the hard right sweat for daring to oppose him on Miers...
Frankly I think Bush ought to have tried Janice Brown or Priscilla Owen again. | |
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10-31-2005, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Epee No amount of internet moaning will be able to stop this nomination from being confirmed.
Yes, there will be a fight, but barring scandle - the left doesn't have the tools to stop the process.
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10-31-2005, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Inquartata I'm not so sure, myself. Despite the "extraordinary circumstances" clause in the filibuster deal, there may well be enough moderate Republicans willing to go over to the Dems on this one to block him. Especially given that unlike Roberts and Miers this nominee has a long public record to attack and bicker and bargain over...
I think it's going to be a bumpy ride. Maybe that's the idea: make the hard right sweat for daring to oppose him on Miers...
Frankly I think Bush ought to have tried Janice Brown or Priscilla Owen again. | I agree, but wonder if they had possibly taken themselves out of the running? This fight's going to be a bloodbath. | |
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10-31-2005, 05:38 PM
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| I think the liberal left gets what they deserve. They should have jumped at the opportunity for Meirs. I think this was Bush's plan all along. The dems will have a tough time, considering he was confirmed unannimously last time. | |
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10-31-2005, 05:48 PM
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| Huh, the head Dem Senator, Reid, praised Meiers - it was the right that killed her nomination. Bayou Bum, check the fingerprints on the knife a little better!
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10-31-2005, 06:00 PM
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| So, why does this thread proclaim "lightbulb" when seen in thread list view?
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10-31-2005, 06:10 PM
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| How many Supreme Court Justice nominees does it take to change a lightbulb?
It depends on whether the Senate will let them try...
Seriously, though, Jeff, Reid's "approval" might be interpreted as the "knife". Just as Democrats seem inclined to object to everything and anything of which the Republicans approve, many Republicans probably see Democratic approval as mala in se...enough to evoke a knee-jerk objection from them to whatever is being approved.  | |
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10-31-2005, 06:19 PM
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| I don't think Reid's positive words about her were what got Bork, Coulter, Rush, and the WSJ to diss her. All the analysts, including the ones at the WSJ, say it was rejection from the right that got her bumped off. If having a Democratic Senator act as a sure way to eliminate a candidate the Dems don't want, then things are easier for them, and they have more influence, than they ever supposed.
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10-31-2005, 09:53 PM
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#14 | | Din Älskling
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| Well, I just wanted to express my disgust with the conservative right. I mean, everyone here knows that I normally support, without question, the GOP's agenda for America. I believe that they are the true guiding force behind this great country and are trully sincere in their faith in God and the rule of law. I trust them to make the correct decision concerning the hastening of Armegeddon and the soon to follow Rapture during which this tainted Earth will be swept clean of rubbish (Rapists, Murderers, Fornicators, and women who refuse to obey their husbands) by our Lord Jesus Christ.
I have to say though, I was shocked, SHOCKED I say, by the Right's reaction to Miers's nomination. I thought that the Republicans' respected Pres. Bush's Constitutional power to nominate anyone he wants to the position, regardless of their background, beliefs or experience. Miers is a trusted friend, ally, and syncophant of the Bush Admin with no judiciating experience; she deserves to be rewarded for her tireless efforts in support of one of the most corrupt administrations to sit in power. I mean, if you compare her to Brown ( ex-head of FEMA), she's a cherry for the position considering she has at least stepped into a court of law on occassion.
When is the Right going to understand that ALL of "President Bush's nominees should be accorded the fairness of an up or down vote in the Senate?" "Every President, Republican or Democrat, deserves to have his nominees voted on. Every Senator has a responsibility to exercise his or her constitutional duty to vote on the President's nominees, and every nominee deserves a hearing, a committee vote, and an up-or-down vote on the Senate floor." "All of the president's nominees--both now and in the future--deserve a fair up or down vote..." There is no argument, "The President's nominees deserve a fair up or down vote" because "...Senate tradition has always been to allow the nominee, no matter how controversial, an up-or-down vote, because that is what the Constitution dictates." As an American, "I believe that our nation's judicial system should be put above partisan politics and under no circumstances should either party obstruct the courts from doing their important work, and, in this particular case, the Senate must give each nominee a fair, up-or-down vote to fulfill its constitutional duty." "By refusing to give judicial nominations an up or down vote, it is nothing more than a Congressional veto with a fancy name." "To be sure, the nomination process should be fair and rigorous - including a fair hearing, a floor debate in which all views are heard, and then an up-or-down vote on their confirmation. The focus should be on a nominee's judicial views, not his/her personal political views." One thing we must remember "Throughout this debate, we have held firm to a simple principle -- judicial nominees deserve up-or-down votes. Vote for them. Vote against them. But give them the courtesy of a vote."
Et tu Bill Frist? Et tu?
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11-03-2005, 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by esskreemr ... | Good point esskreemr,
I'm disgusted with both parties. The answer to all problems is to throw more money at it. I can't stand the way Bush declares billions for this or that without actually thinking about what is really needed. Even if one party does come up with a good idea, the other party attacks it furiously, not the idea, but because they don't want them to get credit. I wish we could just replace everyone and try again. But unfortunately, one vote isn't worth anything and the majority doesn't care. | |
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11-03-2005, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Bayou Bum But unfortunately, one vote isn't worth anything and the majority doesn't care. |
Yeah, but so what? Let's go shopping.
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