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Swearing on TV is now allowed But only in Finnish. According to David Letterman censors now allow profanities on tv, as long as they are in Finnish. See:
http://siirappi.com/~pasjohol/letterman.wmv
How about allowing swearing on the piste, but also only in Finnish? All frustrated fencers could let out some steam and other people's feelings wouldn't be hurt. Except some Finnish fencers', but we can cope with that. 
JyJy Spake the warlike Lemminkäinen:
"Fools indeed may heed thy counsel, / Cowards too may give attention;
Those of seven conquest-summers / Cannot heed such weak advising.
Bring to me my battle-armor. / Bring my magic mail of copper,
Bring me too my father's broadsword, / Keep the old man's blade from rusting;
Long it has been cold and idle, / Long has lain in secret places,
Long and constantly been weeping, / Long been asking for a bearer."
Kalevala - Rune XXVI. Origin of the Serpent
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 Originally Posted by JyJy How about allowing swearing on the piste, but also only in Finnish? Yes, a low, growling "Ei sa peitääääääääääääää!" would be very efficient I think! 
('Ei sa peitää' means 'do not cover' in finnish; a phrase everyone in Sweden knows since it says so on all electric radiators.)
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I'm pretty sure you could swear in Finnish and get away with it...unless you have a Finnish referree... "Since when does being a patriot in America mean shutting your mouth?"
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I've heard refs suggest that if you lose your temper and curse, make sure it is in a language they don't understand. I've never been yelled at for cursing in German. Of course, I've never done that in front of a ref who spoke the language. "If I were ever to challenge you to a duel, your best bet would be battle axes in a very dark basement." Misquoted from The Prisoner
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But those things which belong neither to God nor to Caeser, feeleth free to writeth them off, for yea, they are deductable.
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one has to be VERY careful on that one, because some people speak languages you really don't expect them to be able to speak..........
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Originally Posted by MyrddinsPrecint one has to be VERY careful on that one, because some people speak languages you really don't expect them to be able to speak.......... Especially at fencing matches. Something about swords seems to attract people who are bilingual.
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Yea, if you fence sabre, don't make a habit of swearing in Russian... That's it, I'm done with the discussion forums on F.net. It's had its uses, but the ideologues, ranters, and "experts" have drowned too many of the conversations. I'm changing my password to something random and never logging in again.
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Originally Posted by oso97 Yea, if you fence sabre, don't make a habit of swearing in Russian... I thought that if you fenced sabre, you were a -lingual, not bi -lingual  The Stalwart Panda
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Originally Posted by RITFencing I've heard refs suggest that if you lose your temper and curse, make sure it is in a language they don't understand. I've never been yelled at for cursing in German. Of course, I've never done that in front of a ref who spoke the language. I did that but my ref, who was an asian teenager, spoke very fluent German. A vulture boards an airplane, carrying two dead raccoons. The stewardess looks at him and says, "I'm sorry, sir, only one carrion allowed per passenger."
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Originally Posted by JyJy How about allowing swearing on the piste, but also only in Finnish? This already happens. Haven't you ever seen a coach yelling "Finnish! Finnish!" at his fencer during a bout?
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Originally Posted by PeterGustafsson Perkele paska viitu! Whooo! 
I think I got that... 
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I would think swearing in German is fairly obvious to most people. I mean, it doesn't really sound that different. French maybe, if you speak really fast. Ich steige ab, Hab keine Zeit, Muss jetzt zu den anderen Pferden, Wollen auch geritten werden
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