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    Budapest Cadet World Cup

    Congratulations to Graham Wicas for winning the Budapest Cadet World Cup in men's epee, and to Jake Wishnia for his top-16 finish. Nice job, guys.

    (Go FAP!)

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    Nice results for those guys.

    BUT

    Is this something like winning the 2004 Senior World Championships?
    Take your time. Read carefully.

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    Allison Henvick took 2nd in WF here, too.
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    "Cadet World Cup"?
    No such thing. There are Junior and Senior World Cups, and there is a Cadet World Championship, but the Worlds is the only FIE sanctioned cadet event.

    Budapest is simply an international cadet competition - anyone can enter if they pay the fee. Dunno if you Americans have some strange additional qualification criteria.

    Note that I'm not taking anything away from the winners - this is a hard competition. But it's not a World Cup in the official sense.
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    Does anyone have the final results list? I went to the FIE website yesterday, and it wasn't up yet. I have a good friend who competed, and I'd like to see how she finished. Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by fencergal33
    Does anyone have the final results list? I went to the FIE website yesterday, and it wasn't up yet. I have a good friend who competed, and I'd like to see how she finished. Thanks!
    As mentioned by Rory it's not an FIE event, so the FIE won't list the results.

    Rory- It's how the USFA refers to designated European Cadet events. And you're right tha the nomenclature is confusing and gets parents and fencers thinking that what they're doing is something other than what it is. That said, for the designated events the US does send coaches and referees, etc. similarly to how they do for junior/senior world cups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Epee
    Is this something like winning the 2004 Senior World Championships?
    No, but Mariel got mentioned in a number of threads for doing so, if I recall correctly.

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    Ok...not an FIE event....how do I locate the results?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fencergal33
    Ok...not an FIE event....how do I locate the results?
    Be able to read Hungarian and check out http://www.hunfencing.hu/ perhaps?

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    Quote Originally Posted by qatet
    Congratulations to Graham Wicas for winning the Budapest Cadet World Cup in men's epee, and to Jake Wishnia for his top-16 finish. Nice job, guys.

    (Go FAP!)
    i guess i can't feel too bad for losing to wischnia at the NAC last year then!! hehehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by oiuyt
    Quote Originally Posted by Mystery
    Is this something like winning the 2004 Senior World Championships?
    No, but Mariel got mentioned in a number of threads for doing so, if I recall correctly.

    -B
    This was my attempt at a joke.

    There's no such thing as a Cadet World Cup...

    Just like there aren't World Championships in Olympic years.

    2004 may have been a bad year to pick... were there seperate world championships for the non-Olympic Events? I don't remember.
    Take your time. Read carefully.

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    Or junior olympics in the US..... its a nice sell to parents, but its just a NAC with qualifiers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Epee
    This was my attempt at a joke.

    There's no such thing as a Cadet World Cup...

    Just like there aren't World Championships in Olympic years.

    2004 may have been a bad year to pick... were there seperate world championships for the non-Olympic Events? I don't remember.
    Enh. Points are points are points. (Not that Graham needs any more in cadet!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Epee
    2004 may have been a bad year to pick... were there seperate world championships for the non-Olympic Events? I don't remember.
    I believe that the WST and WFT events (won by Russia and Italy, respectively) in New York, in association with the world cups, were designated as the Senior World Championship events for 2004 for those events.

    Funny joke though. :eyeroll:

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