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Old 07-09-2001, 11:16 PM   #1
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Super blue blades

i heard that for the glue to stick to the metal on these blades the groove had to be scraped so that the glue could set correctly:

is that true??
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Old 07-10-2001, 04:00 AM   #2
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All old glue should be cleaned from the surface of all blades before you replace the wire and reglue.
You won't have much scraping if you soak the blade in acetone first.

Make a soaker with a length of plumming pipe,long enough to contain a blade, threaded at both ends and two screw on caps.
Use some pipe dope or plummers tape to seal the bottom cap.
Fill the pipe with acetone and drop in the blade. Let it set overnight.
In the morning any stuck wire or glue should come right off.
I run a dental scraper down the groove to remove any residue.
Use the second cap to close the pipe and keep the acetone for next time.
If you have a workbench you can drill a hole in it the diameter of the pipe and just stand it up there permanently.
This is just too easy.
 
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I hate acetone.
I leaves a residue on the blade that keeps the glue from sticking as well as it could. If you use crazy glue or equivolent, you have little choice but to use acetone. However, if you use Duco, Cement-it, or some other "sane" glue, elbow grease is my recommendation.

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I use two part epoxy.I just use a dremel tool cutting wheel to clean out the old wire. As far as the super blues go, I've had more luck wiring if I clean the "blue" out of the groove first. I've had alot of wires pop out when I didn't,but that was before I started using the two part epoxy. Now wires never come out, but without a dremel tool, It would be a real bear to get a broken wire out

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You are a nut! Don't you think epoxy is a bit of overkill for holding a wire down?

But, if it works I don't mean to say it isn't a great idea. It does seem like a bit of a pain to rewire though.
SOmeone needs to develop a foil blade with a hole in it, rather than a groove. Just thread the wire in one end and out the other.
No glue.
No pop ups.
No broken wires.
That would be cool.

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Yeah, it's overkill, and no, I wouldn't recommend it without having a Dremel. But the damn things don't pop out anymore. I've moved on to sabre now anyway, so it's not really an issue for me anymore.
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Try steaming it out. Not kidding.

Boil a kettle. Keep it on the boil. Take a pair of pliers and grip the wire. Now hold the wire/blade interface over the steam and pull.

Works on any glue. Including Epoxy. Everytime.
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I'm with the steaming for 2 part epoxy, cept I boil a pot of water and feed my blade through the steam. I then rip out the wire and while the blade is still condensing the steam run a thin pair of tweezers up the groove. Works every time!
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No, there's nothing about the blueing that keeps glue from sticking. However, it's common for all blades to have some amount of residue from the manufacturing down in the groove that'll need to be cleaned out before wiring. Lammet blades are by far the worst, since they actually pack them in grease for shipping from the factory, but even BF blades can have a little bit of gunk that needs to be gotten out. There's no need to use a Dremel-- just take a small screwdriver, use it to wedge a bit of paper-towel in the groove, and run down the blade a couple of times.

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