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    The Extreme Fencing Trivia Thread

    The Conventions of this thread are as follows:

    Whoever first answers a given question correctly, is allowed to post the next question.

    I'll start us off...

    Name the two famous Hungarian-Jewish sabreurs who were killed by the Nazis in WWII.
    "Saber fencing is incomparably more difficult than epee fencing." --Maestro Luigi Barbasetti, 1899

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    Petschauer and Kabos

    Petschauer is by far the most famous... Particularly because of the tree incident and was the inspiration for the Istvan Szabo film "The Taste of Sunshine"

    I'll post a question shortly.
    Last edited by Mr Epee; 10-05-2005 at 12:39 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Epee
    Petschauer and Kabos
    Correct!

    Petschauer is by far the most famous... Particularly because of the tree incident and was the inspiration for the Istvan Szabo film "The Taste of Sunshine"
    According to Richard Cohen in By the Sword, Szabo's movie was inspired by both men.

    What was the "tree incident"?

    Also, I like the story about how Italo Santelli taught Kabos' father one night, so he could survive that duel he was forced into.


    I'll post a question shortly.

    Sweet.
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    Petschauer was forced to climb a tree naked while Nazi Guards shouted things like, "Hey, lets see if the Olympic Champion Monkeys can climb trees." I came across it in a book about Jewish Athletes a few years before the movie came out. When the scene played out in the film, I assumed that he was the larger influence for the movie.

    There is another trivia thread... on this board that came up with quite a few fencing specific questions... some fairly obscure. I'm trying to find a new one that's not google-able.

    So if some one comes up with another question, fire away.
    Take your time. Read carefully.

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    How about we just resurrect the other thread that Mr Epee mentions rather than continue this one? Water cooler seems like a better palce for it anyway, even if it IS fencing-related trivia.

    -B
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    Ok, totally off the top of my head.

    A few years ago, National Geographic had piece on Italian Fencing in Milan.

    They followed fencer as he prepared for a competition - lessons, training, etc...

    Who was the fencer, and who was his opponent in the final portion of the segment?
    Take your time. Read carefully.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Epee
    Petschauer was forced to climb a tree naked while Nazi Guards shouted things like, "Hey, lets see if the Olympic Champion Monkeys can climb trees." I came across it in a book about Jewish Athletes a few years before the movie came out. When the scene played out in the film, I assumed that he was the larger influence for the movie.
    Interesting.

    There is another trivia thread... on this board that came up with quite a few fencing specific questions... some fairly obscure. I'm trying to find a new one that's not google-able.

    So if some one comes up with another question, fire away.
    Fair enough.

    OK this one is pretty darn obscure...

    What very famous heavyweight boxer of the late 19th/early 20th century said:

    "Fencing is not only the most beautiful exercise on earth, but one of the most beneficial."

    Hint: The pugilist in question fought during the transitional phase between bare knuckles and gloves, but was mainly noted for his exploits under Marquis of Queensbury (glove) rules.
    "Saber fencing is incomparably more difficult than epee fencing." --Maestro Luigi Barbasetti, 1899

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    Quote Originally Posted by oiuyt
    How about we just resurrect the other thread that Mr Epee mentions rather than continue this one? Water cooler seems like a better palce for it anyway, even if it IS fencing-related trivia.

    -B
    Because it's been dormant for about 6 months... and because you were so angry about the "rep" portion of that contest. It makes sense to call a do over.

    I think trivia is a very good way to share knowledge about the sport, and so it obviously belongs in the Fencing Section. Just because the thread has a playfull nature doesn't mean that it's automatically Water Cooler fodder.
    Take your time. Read carefully.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Epee
    Ok, totally off the top of my head.

    A few years ago, National Geographic had piece on Italian Fencing in Milan.

    They followed fencer as he prepared for a competition - lessons, training, etc...

    Who was the fencer, and who was his opponent in the final portion of the segment?
    Sorry, I posted before I saw this post.

    In any event, I have no idea.
    "Saber fencing is incomparably more difficult than epee fencing." --Maestro Luigi Barbasetti, 1899

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    Likewise, on your question...

    We can leave 'em up and see if anyone else plugs the answers in.
    Take your time. Read carefully.

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    Sounds good.
    "Saber fencing is incomparably more difficult than epee fencing." --Maestro Luigi Barbasetti, 1899

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    No answers?



    Hint #2: The boxer in question fought several bouts with the great Joe Choynski (the famous Polish Jew from San Francisco whom Jack Johnson said hit him harder than any other fighter. The boxer in question defeated Choynski every time.
    "Saber fencing is incomparably more difficult than epee fencing." --Maestro Luigi Barbasetti, 1899

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    I have examined the clues, summoned the power of the internet, and will submit.

    James J. Corbett
    a.k.a. Handsome Jim, Pompador Jim, Gentleman Jim.
    Take your time. Read carefully.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Epee
    I have examined the clues, summoned the power of the internet, and will submit.

    James J. Corbett
    a.k.a. Handsome Jim, Pompador Jim, Gentleman Jim.
    Bingo!

    It was indeed "Gentleman Jim" Corbett who spoke so highly of fencing. His comment appeared in an article entitled "How To Build Muscle", circa 1900.
    "Saber fencing is incomparably more difficult than epee fencing." --Maestro Luigi Barbasetti, 1899

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    Interesting, I would not have known that...

    Ok, back on schedule.

    A few years ago, National Geographic had piece on Italian Fencing in Milan.
    They followed fencer as he prepared for a competition - lessons, training, etc...
    Who was the fencer, and who was his opponent in the final portion of the segment?

    Hint:This was in the 80's, both fencers used "french grips", but neither was french.
    Take your time. Read carefully.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Epee
    Interesting, I would not have known that...
    We must remember that fencing, boxing, & wrestling were once considered the "manly arts", and there is considerable overlap between them (fighting concepts, training methodologies, etc).

    Ok, back on schedule.

    A few years ago, National Geographic had piece on Italian Fencing in Milan.
    They followed fencer as he prepared for a competition - lessons, training, etc...
    Who was the fencer, and who was his opponent in the final portion of the segment?

    Hint:This was in the 80's, both fencers used "french grips", but neither was french.
    Hmmm, still no idea.
    "Saber fencing is incomparably more difficult than epee fencing." --Maestro Luigi Barbasetti, 1899

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    I have an old American Fencing magazine with a photo of Luan Jujie fencing in the Olympics (against Hanisch, I believe). Luan was using a french grip, apparently.
    =)=///

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    Nope, the category is "Men's Epee"

    One was Italian, the other was not.

    I really thought this piece was more famous, or maybe I just saw it too many times as a kid. If no one has it by tomorrow, I'll just share the answer.
    Take your time. Read carefully.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Epee
    I really thought this piece was more famous, or maybe I just saw it too many times as a kid. If no one has it by tomorrow, I'll just share the answer.
    I randomly saw the article a few days ago, as a matter of fact. I didn't read it, though, so I can't answer the question.

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    This was the National Geographic Television Show, not the magazine.
    Take your time. Read carefully.

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