Tom DeLay Indicted

[Inquartata]

Yet not enough to make for a statistically viable conclusion. Going only by those numbers, we would have to conclude that Texas Democrats are three times as likely to be corrupt and to commit crimes as Texas Republicans...if the sample size weren't too small to draw any useful pattern from, that is.


For all we know those Democrats were just personal enemies or rivals. Or they were "cover" for the real intended targets.

[Epee_Pox]

For all we know those Democrats were just personal enemies or rivals.

From what I've read, this appears to have been the case.

[esskreemr]

Tom DeLay is my hero! He has shown the common man how to beat the system!

From now on, if I ever get arrested, I'm going to first ask to have the case dismissed if the Policeman is a Republican. If it makes it to court, I'm going to have it moved if the Judge is a Repulican.

Thanks Tom for showing us that you trully believe in the American system of law, of which you are an not-so-integrated part.

[Larrison]

Tom DeLay is my hero! He has shown the common man how to beat the system!

From now on, if I ever get arrested, I'm going to first ask to have the case dismissed if the Policeman is a Republican. If it makes it to court, I'm going to have it moved if the Judge is a Repulican.

Thanks Tom for showing us that you trully believe in the American system of law, of which you are an not-so-integrated part.

Umm.. if I'm reading the articles right, isn't it because the Judge donated to Moveon.org, while they were running a "Recall Delay" campaign or something like that? That is, it's not that the judge is a Democrat, but he donated to a specific organization at the same time it was specially running a political attack campaign against him. That might give the impression of a conflict of interest in the judge.

If the judge has donated to John Kerry's campaign directly, then I don't think there would have been any problem, nor if the Judge had donated to the Texas Democratic Party. Now, from what I read, the Judge said he donated to Moveon.Org when they were primarily supporting Kerry, and that was why he did so -- but since Moveon.Org was also running an anti-Delay campaign, there is the potential impression of a conflict of interest. We'll see how this turns out..

[achilleus]

Umm.. if I'm reading the articles right, isn't it because the Judge donated to Moveon.org, while they were running a "Recall Delay" campaign or something like that? That is, it's not that the judge is a Democrat, but he donated to a specific organization at the same time it was specially running a political attack campaign against him. That might give the impression of a conflict of interest in the judge.

If the judge has donated to John Kerry's campaign directly, then I don't think there would have been any problem, nor if the Judge had donated to the Texas Democratic Party. Now, from what I read, the Judge said he donated to Moveon.Org when they were primarily supporting Kerry, and that was why he did so -- but since Moveon.Org was also running an anti-Delay campaign, there is the potential impression of a conflict of interest. We'll see how this turns out..

Well, yes he did donate to Moveon.org, but according to the articles I've read (here's one), he donated $200 in 2004 during Kerry's campaign. Although it's not listed in this article, Delay's attorny also erroneously accused Moveon.org of selling T-shirts with Delay's mugshot as evidence of bias.

Either way, the judge is doing the right thing, and letting it go to a hearing.

So, now a judge who has contributed to the GOP will decide if there is any bias...

Although it is pretty clear, that Delay's tactic is to say it's all a democratic conspiracy. Or what's the phrase all of FOXNews is using...the Criminalization of Politics...

[YankeeRebel]

Although it is pretty clear, that Delay's tactic is to say it's all a democratic conspiracy. Or what's the phrase all of FOXNews is using...the Criminalization of Politics...

It's laughable now to hear these righties crying about a "vast left-wing conspiracy."

[Have At You]

They are? I haven't heard it from my righty crowd. I'm hearing a lot of "tut tut"-ing against DeLay and about the prosecutor, but no conspiracy theories.

[keith]

They are? I haven't heard it from my righty crowd. I'm hearing a lot of "tut tut"-ing against DeLay and about the prosecutor, but no conspiracy theories.

what no nashing of teeth that the judge contributed to moveon.org?

[achilleus]

They are? I haven't heard it from my righty crowd. I'm hearing a lot of "tut tut"-ing against DeLay and about the prosecutor, but no conspiracy theories.

The politicians and righty news personalities are claiming a vast left wing conspiracy...

Or as FOX News said, the criminalization of politics...

Individuals, well, I haven't heard any people not in the business claim this...

[gojujay]

Dem's *can't* do it - the Republicans hold the purse strings, and they've been making Democrats look like pikers when it comes to spending...

Something about a past history of being wasterels and FORTY YEARS prior control of said pursestrings...

[Inquartata]

Thanks Tom for showing us that you trully believe in the American system of law, of which you are an not-so-integrated part.

Thanks, Ess, for showing us that you truly believe in the American concept of "Innocent until proven guilty", of which you are apparently not a fan...

Hey, I didn't even know that you lived in Texas, much less that you've been selected for the Delay jury. Still less that the trail was over and the verdict in.

[YankeeRebel]

Something about a past history of being wasterels and FORTY YEARS prior control of said pursestrings...

So does this give the GOP a free pass to spend-spend-spend? I remember the republicans who railed against this kind of spending and promising the American public that if they could just get into power, they would deliver a smaller, less wasteful, more fiscally conservative government. It turned out that all those republican promises were nothing more than cheap political rhetoric.

It seems a little disingenious to campaign against out of control spending, then turn around and engage in out of control spending, and justify it all by saying, "Well, the other party did it--why can't we?"

If people have higher expectations for the republicans, it is because the republicans themselves promised a higher standard.

[esskreemr]

It's laughable now to hear these righties crying about a "vast left-wing conspiracy."

They call it "rule of law" when the shoes on the other foot.

[esskreemr]

Thanks, Ess, for showing us that you truly believe in the American concept of "Innocent until proven guilty", of which you are apparently not a fan...

Hey, I didn't even know that you lived in Texas, much less that you've been selected for the Delay jury. Still less that the trail was over and the verdict in.

Tsk tsk. Where in my post did I say I think he is guilty? I just find it interesting that apparently 'due process' has a considerably different meaning when applied to a politician. Do you think I (or anybody on this board) would be given the same treatment? Do you feel that he should be given special treatment because he is Tom 'The Hammer' DeLay?

[Slim]

Tsk tsk. Where in my post did I say I think he is guilty? I just find it interesting that apparently 'due process' has a considerably different meaning when applied to a politician. Do you think I (or anybody on this board) would be given the same treatment? Do you feel that he should be given special treatment because he is Tom 'The Hammer' DeLay?

"I felt that with all these indictments of Repubs surfacing, we should have a thread to keep track. So now we know that NeoCon actually stands for "New Convicts".

"Besides, the 'innocent until proven guilty' idea went out the window with the Patriot Act."

Hehe...you funny.

[Slim]

It's laughable now to hear these righties crying about a "vast left-wing conspiracy."

Yes. It is funny, especially when you consider Hillary was the one who coined the phrase. I guess a vast right-wing conspiracy is totally plausable, while a vast left one is laughable.

[gojujay]

So does this give the GOP a free pass to spend-spend-spend? I remember the republicans who railed against this kind of spending and promising the American public that if they could just get into power, they would deliver a smaller, less wasteful, more fiscally conservative government. It turned out that all those republican promises were nothing more than cheap political rhetoric.

It seems a little disingenious to campaign against out of control spending, then turn around and engage in out of control spending, and justify it all by saying, "Well, the other party did it--why can't we?"

If people have higher expectations for the republicans, it is because the republicans themselves promised a higher standard.

Where in the world did you get the idea that I think the Republicons should get a free pass? All they are is the other side of a command economy coin. It's why I left the Republicon party! Bunch of hypocrites!