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Old 09-30-2005, 02:00 PM   #1
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Re: [CFML] Chest protectors AND Source Material

In einer eMail vom 9/30/2005 3:48:47 AM W. Europe Daylight Time schreibt
jeff.savit@sun.com:

For those
who haven't seen this: Terrone recommended changing hands with every
touch, which would be problematic for anything other than Italian grips.

Glad you raised this: We do a rather different "integrative" number with
the styles (see the stuff on our training program). We take as our text on
this Gaugler's generalization that despite differences in execution the basic
concepts are the same. Part of the reason for this instructional sequence is
"cultural": Developing attention to finesse in a society suffused with ideas
about Macht (power), something you couldn't miss if you drove a car here! It's
precisely at the end of the two-year curriculum we plan to introduce style
and tactical options with the foil and the handness question we haven't worked
out but are aware of it. Any suggestions?

Bill Leckie







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Old 10-03-2005, 02:00 AM   #2
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Re: [CFML] Chest protectors AND Source Material

Hi Bill,

When I've been in Germany, I've been very happy to be a passenger rather
than a driver!

I'll have to go back to your website - I've visited it recently, but
can't remember if you have any "sentiment du fer" exercises. I think
that's the best way to teach hand finesse, e.g.: light press or glide,
and disengage when you feel opposing pressure.

I'm not keen on switching hands, myself. I think most people are better
equipped to train to their dominant hand and there's little to be gained
by forcing them to switch to their off-hands after each action. I would
imagine this to be very frustrating to beginners who are still trying to
coordinate their motor skills. For the few of us that are ambidextrous,
fine, but we don't see surgeons, baseball pitchers, and tennis players
alternating hands, and we rarely see this in fencing in either the
current or classical periods. Cross-training can alleviate any asymmetry
in muscle development, if that's a concern.

Plus the pragmatic little issues like underarm protectors being on the
wrong side every other touch, the fencing jacket opening being on the
wrong side every other touch, und so weiter....

regards, Jeff



On Fri, 2005-09-30 at 01:23, Flanconade@aol.com wrote:
> Glad you raised this: We do a rather different "integrative" number
> with the styles (see the stuff on our training program). We take as
> our text on this Gaugler's generalization that despite differences in
> execution the basic concepts are the same. Part of the reason for this
> instructional sequence is "cultural": Developing attention to finesse
> in a society suffused with ideas about Macht (power), something you
> couldn't miss if you drove a car here! It's precisely at the end of
> the two-year curriculum we plan to introduce style and tactical
> options with the foil and the handness question we haven't worked out
> but are aware of it. Any suggestions?
>
> Bill Leckie
>




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