Dating among club members

[kmak_577]

she's not lesbian is she ?

[Rapier_wit]

Jack - Well then I accept your challenge! That is true. Either that or you get guys that you thought had both but then end finding out that they were lying to you about the personality part. As far as the good-looking guys go, I'm still looking. Tennessee's not a real good breeding ground for hunks, especially not ones with any sort of manners, anyhow.

I don't understand why they make rules against dating in a fencing club. What are they so afraid of?

Fencing Kitten - Good expose. Nice to see I'm not the only long-winded person around here.

MP - Know any good male epeeists?

[FencingKitten]

R_w - Thanks for the compliment! I got bored, so I decided to answer the question *thoroughly.*

Rules against dating in a group of people that spends four/five weeknights and at least one weekend a month in each others' immediate company, as at UT, are designed to minimize drama.

Thinking of it from a practical perspective - try to imagine the worst breakup imaginable. Double-dealing, back-stabbing, cheating (in club, of course), friends gossiping and taking sides, gah! the works. Then, confine that to a club that meets as often as is possible, and include one of the officers with the authority to affect other members' memberships, lessons, whatever. I can definitely see a need to avoid even the not-worst-case scenario!

[Squall_Leonhart]

Ahhhh, I stopped reading after the umpteenth post. My team practices about 12-18 hours a week. That's a lot of sweating, where pheromones and such are released into the non-ventilated room. This creates a euphorious sauna, and we all just keep inhaling it like it's snuff till there's no tomorrow. Attraction between team members occurs somewhere, but most have managed to keep it down low. Only a few fleeting whispers of so-and-so did what with who escapes the mouths of the older folk every once in a while, but I think the general real of professionalism remains.
A team however is run differently than club, and our coach made it clear to keep that sort of stuff out of harm's way....for club however, no one who is our age who's not on the team come to club, so everything's jolly good.

[MyrddinsPrecint]

Originally Posted by Rapier_wit

MP - Know any good male epeeists?

good at fencing, or good in bed? or BOTH?

not that it matters, the answer is still yes....

[JackOfHearts]

Originally Posted by Rapier_wit

Jack - Well then I accept your challenge! That is true. Either that or you get guys that you thought had both but then end finding out that they were lying to you about the personality part. As far as the good-looking guys go, I'm still looking. Tennessee's not a real good breeding ground for hunks, especially not ones with any sort of manners, anyhow.

Originally Posted by JackOfHearts

Rapier_wit:You? Ugly? I'll believe that when I see it (and yes, that is a challenge )

I still don't see it.

[JackOfHearts]

Originally Posted by Rapier_wit

Jack - Well then I accept your challenge! That is true. Either that or you get guys that you thought had both but then end finding out that they were lying to you about the personality part. As far as the good-looking guys go, I'm still looking. Tennessee's not a real good breeding ground for hunks, especially not ones with any sort of manners, anyhow.

Now for a serious response. What's the first thing that usually attracts you to a guy, his personality or his looks? If it's personality, it's kind of hard to lie about something like that, at least I've never been able to pull it off. So how do you mean that? I'm sure you'll find some good looking guys with manners that match, and a personality you'll click with. In my experiance, it sometimes takes awhile before you realize that despite the good times you've had together, and however much you seem to compliment the other person, some things just don't click, and probably never will. That doesn't neccesarily mean any sort of malice on one part or another. If it doesn't work out, then it's probably for the best. Just have to have faith and try again when the opprotunity arises. *shrugs*

[fencingaddict]

in our club we had a 25 yr. old new guy (saber) start coming in. He started hitting on the 15 and 16 year olds. the girls would show up at class for 5 min. then leave with him, reappearing at the end of the session when the parents arrived to pick them up. Our coach at our urging pulled the guy aside and gave him a warning, he also told the girls he didnt appreciate them using the club as a screen. When he.they did it again he then told each girl's parents and left it up to them. It stopped.

Apart from that we had 3 serious relationships develop in our club with college students and adult fencers. No problem, coach had no problem. So it happens, and it's nice to have something like fencing in common. By the way 2 couple's were in the same weapon.

[Rapier_wit]

FencingKitten - You're more than welcome. My posts used to be quite lengthy, but I've been really busy since college started and trying to get ample time on the computer is increasingly scarce. Nevertheless when I have a day off...poof! I'm here! Ah, I can understand the breakup part. My boyfriend and I broke up but we're both still planning to attend the fencing club. I'm a bit nervous how that's going to work out.

MP - *cringes* I'll leave the bed part till when I get married. I'll stick with just the personality and fencing part right now.

Jack - I'm working on it! I'm not at my home computer so none of my photos are here. But I'll see what I can do. Mmm, it depends, usually physical attraction is first. (But as I said, usually, not always. I wasn't attracted to my ex at all until we started talking) I'm talking about those people who pretend that they are serious, grounded (morally, philosophically, spiritually), chivalrious guys, but then really turn out to be obsessive roleplayers and completely non-ambitious, in other words, totally opposite from what they first lead you to believe. I'm sure I'll find them too, well actually I have, but they're never interested in me. I'm just too...weird (just ask my coach, or DFP for that matter!)

[Rapier_wit]

Hey Jack....go check out the photo gallery. I have taken up your challenge.

[KD5MDK]

I sure as hell don't see it, if the goal was proving you're ugly.

[JackOfHearts]

Originally Posted by Rapier_wit

Hey Jack....go check out the photo gallery. I have taken up your challenge.

Wow....

So...

I'm sorry, I'm speachless. How can you have possibly considered yourself ugly? Granted, you do seem to be on the skinny side... but damn woman, you're gorgeous! Especially in that pic with the black background, the photographer really knows her stuff. I like how your eyes come out in that one. Very beautiful. You could be a younger Kate Beckinsale.

Care to tell me more about your "weirdness"?

[Rapier_wit]

KD - Well, then again, those were the best pictures of the lot. I've got an overbite like you wouldn't believe, you'll never see me do a profile shot ever. I dunno, I guess putting pictures up isn't a good representation of what I see in the mirror every day. (There's a difference also between a 2-d and 3-d image)

Jack - Sure doesn't look like I made you speechless. As I said, those are the good ones. Trust me, if you ever meet me in person, you'll know why. Besides modeling pictures are photoshopped anyhow. Y'know, everyone says that, but I can't see it. I've looked at pictures of Kate Beckinsale and I just don't see the connection (maybe Underworld...)

Even if you go by what you say (and others), good-looking girls get the guys, right? Phooey! It ain't true I tell ya!

[JackOfHearts]

Originally Posted by Rapier_wit

Jack - Sure doesn't look like I made you speechless. As I said, those are the good ones. Trust me, if you ever meet me in person, you'll know why. Besides modeling pictures are photoshopped anyhow. Y'know, everyone says that, but I can't see it. I've looked at pictures of Kate Beckinsale and I just don't see the connection (maybe Underworld...)

Even if you go by what you say (and others), good-looking girls get the guys, right? Phooey! It ain't true I tell ya!

Speechless was my initial reaction. Though when all else fails, I tend to point out the obvious. If you only show us the good ones, then how are we supposed to get an objective opinion? And as I mentioned earlier in this thread, beauty can be intimidating. I've seen it happen, and when a guy feels a girl is far above his station, he tends to avoid her thinking either A) he doesn't stand a chance or B) She's already taken, or has better options out there.

[RebelFencer]

God Jack, do you ever stop kissing ***?

R.W.: haha, through it all, you can't say I didn't warn you about fox tailed boys.

[JackOfHearts]

Originally Posted by RebelFencer

God Jack, do you ever stop kissing ***?

R.W.: haha, through it all, you can't say I didn't warn you about fox tailed boys.

Kissing ***? I'm just pointing out the obvious as usual. *shrugs*

Wasn't there a japanese myth about fox-women? I think i may have run into one of those once or twice...

[Rapier_wit]

Jack - Ah yes, Mr. Subtlety drives home another point. As I said, I'm not at my home computer so I can't get the other photos. Beauty can be intimidating? Sure for some, but that doesn't apply to me. Brains, yes. Beauty? Nope. So here's another question, what "station" would I be at to find guys (or even girls for friends for that matter) wouldn't be intimidated? A.) That tends to be true..B) Hah! Nothing could be farther from the truth!

Rebel - Oh he does kiss some major ***, but we still love him for it anyways. *hangs head* I know I know. I will never get that picture out of my head of you slamming down your fists on the table declaring, "I will not allow to date either of the Trimble twins. One wears a tale for god's sake!" Priceless.

No, we're not talking about kitsune here. Sorry to disappoint you Jack.

[JackOfHearts]

Originally Posted by Rapier_wit

Jack - Ah yes, Mr. Subtlety drives home another point. As I said, I'm not at my home computer so I can't get the other photos. Beauty can be intimidating? Sure for some, but that doesn't apply to me. Brains, yes. Beauty? Nope. So here's another question, what "station" would I be at to find guys (or even girls for friends for that matter) wouldn't be intimidated? A.) That tends to be true..B) Hah! Nothing could be farther from the truth!

And who says your brains aren't a part of your beauty? Do we merely define what is beautiful by what we see of a persons body rather then character? A person's station/level/league is really defined by the level of confidence a guy or lady has in their chances of pursuing someone. Which means it's complete BS in a realistic sense, but can be quite daunting in a psychological one. A) I'm trying to make a point about how a guy might feel in regards to seeing you (or any beautiful woman for that matter) as a prospective romantic pursuit. B) I never said it was even close to the truth. If a guy is attracted to you, such thoughts may cross his mind as a consequence of his feelings. Not all guys, but some, perhaps someone whose of a character you may be looking for. Different people react to different stimuli in different ways, so I can't tell you how you can get others to see you at a certain level. You shouldn't try to do that anways, just be true to yourself. The rest will fall into place depending on your actions and the actions of any prospective suitors. Part of pursuing a lady is getting over that initial fear that she's taken or "out of your league". If a guy can't build up enough confidence to find out one way or another, then its his loss. Give it time. Be patient, and most of all, don't lose faith, whatever happens. You're young, and you've still got plenty of life ahead of you. And plenty of chances to find the right guy for you. Good luck.

[D+F+P=Hadouken!]

Say it with me guys........ SUCK UP!!!!

[Feltan]

JackofHearts = Dr. Phil

Regards,
Feltan