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    practice/electric sabre

    Is there really any difference in the blades vendors sell for practice and electric complete? The only difference I could think of would be an added socket and the necessary insulation. Yet the same blades are being sold for higher than the simple addition of a socket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by larkmaj
    Is there really any difference in the blades vendors sell for practice and electric complete? The only difference I could think of would be an added socket and the necessary insulation. Yet the same blades are being sold for higher than the simple addition of a socket.
    There is no differance in blades....there isn't even a requirement for an FIE sabre blade.

    You're correct...the ONLY differance between a dry sabre and an electric one is the addition of the socket and insulation if necessarry.

    The price differance in my sabres reflects precicely that...$10 due to the socket (and necessarry modifications to the insulator)...all the guards I guy are already insulated anyway...
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    I was just wondering because I was browsing through absolute and BG. Their electric completes seem to be about 20 bucks more.

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    Two things I've noticed:

    1) Sockets are more expensive than I realized. I bought one separately at Nationals to replace one in an existing electric sabre, and it was about $8.

    2) When comparing prices, make sure you're comparing apples to apples. I noticed on the BG & Absolute web sites that the practice and electric complete sabres often have different quality blades, guards, and grips, so the price difference could be from a variation there. I suspect that the practice sabres might be more likely to be assembled from cheaper components, with the idea that, well, they're just for *practice*. (Makes sense.)

    Just go ahead and buy an electric sabre to begin with.

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    I advise all my clients to buy electric One the difference in weight just the few ounce's of a better guard and socket versues one without. Can mean the difference of a touch. plus the balance of the blade can make a difference. To me a cheap sabre blade is a good as a expensvie one they all break soon or later and all have to meet the requiements on the stiffness. I had the cheap chinese blades last longer than allstar or unlmann blades. Don't fall for the FIE stamp on the sabre blade No requierement on sabre blades
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    There's all sorts of pricing weirdness with the sabres for some reason. On absolute's site, they have an uhlmann insulated guard for $33, and right below it, an uninsulated guard (shown painted on inside) and an insulating sleeve for $27 and $5... go figure. Of course, if you buy that and the guard shows up without insulating paint, you'll have to kick yourself.

    BTW, does anybody know which is lighter between the allstar and uhlmann? I always thought the allstar was lighter, but I may have just been imagining it.

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    Offhand, drysabres might not have S2000 blades, as whipover is much less of a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KD5MDK
    Offhand, drysabres might not have S2000 blades, as whipover is much less of a problem.
    Actually...the only sabre blades I sell ARE 2000s....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Purple Fencer
    Actually...the only sabre blades I sell ARE 2000s....
    And I highly doubt the the original post was referring to you, however there are other companies that will sell pre-2000 blades as "practice" so it is a valid concern.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prototoast
    And I highly doubt the the original post was referring to you, however there are other companies that will sell pre-2000 blades as "practice" so it is a valid concern.
    Yeah...just easier for me to sell the newer blades exclusively...practice with what you compete with...
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    I perfer the Leon Paul Sabre bell guard it's the top of the line over the others one on the market. I also perfer a leather handle over rubber one the leather one once it's broken in is awesome to use for finger controlled and to the fit of the hand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by penguin_2000
    BTW, does anybody know which is lighter between the allstar and uhlmann? I always thought the allstar was lighter, but I may have just been imagining it.
    isn't allstar just the US uhlmann or something like that?

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    No, they are two companies selling the same gear in different colors, more or less.

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