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Old 07-25-2006, 05:01 AM   #2041
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Hmm, if there was a drink called the Louweasel, I wonder what would be in it....
Cough. Probably Crystal Palace vodka for starters.

Whatever was in it, it would probably give most of us paws.

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Actually, I wonder what a Go? Fencing? drink would be. For starters, the only alcohol it could have in it would be Manishewitz....
Ah, so you ARE nuts, in addition to subsisting on them!
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Old 07-27-2006, 05:24 AM   #2042
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The problem with paws is it makes it hard for you to hold your drink. That's why my dogs drink their beer from a dish....http://www.fencing.net/gallery/showp...500/ppuser/407
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I once knew a chihuahua that drank from a toy mug. No kidding! He woud put one of this paws through the loop and use the other to keep it steady. He chould never do that without tipping over though. Not sure if it was poor balance, or the tequila... My mexican relations are easily amused.
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Old 07-27-2006, 06:56 AM   #2044
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Old 07-27-2006, 03:37 PM   #2045
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Reagon-Bush voodoo economics at work...

When I was in grad school the time before this time, a professor of mine remarked: If you have a theory that is more powerful than reality, the theory is probably wrong.

That comment was worth the price of the degree.

We return you to your regularly scheduled cocktail party now....

By the way, does anyone have any thoughts about the origins of the word "cocktail?" Seems to me to bring together a number of common themes in this thread....
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Old 07-27-2006, 03:54 PM   #2046
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Cocktail - two things that come together an awful lot after some drinks.
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Old 07-27-2006, 03:54 PM   #2047
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I am so sorry you asked that, as I couldn't resist looking it up.

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— ORIGIN originally denoting a horse with a docked tail, later a racehorse which was not a thoroughbred through having a cock-tailed horse in its pedigree: from COCK + TAIL.

There are various other explanations that appear from time to time, but none are well supported by evidence. Perhaps the most commonly told one is that it is from the French coquetier, or egg-cup. According to this story, the cocktail was invented in New Orleans, circa 1795, by Antoine Amédée Peychaud, an apothecary from Santo Domingo. Peychaud, who is famous as the inventor Peychaud bitters, held social gatherings for fellow Masons at his pharmacy at 437 rue Royale. He would serve brandy toddies to which he would add his own mixture of bitters and would serve in an egg-cup. The drink acquired the name of the cup, but English speaking guests would call it a cocktay, which eventually became the cocktail. The specificity of the details, Peychaud's renown as a mixologist and the date provide circumstantial credence to this explanation, but there is no direct evidence to support it.
Another explanation has the word deriving from the French coquetel, a drink known in the Bordeaux region for several centuries. According to this account, the drink and its name were introduced to America by French officers during the American Revolution. Again, there is no evidence for this.
Yet another is that it is from cock-ale, a drink popular in England in the 17th and 18th centuries, but to the modern palate seems a bit disgusting. To a cask of new ale was added a sack containing an old rooster, mashed to a pulp, raisins, mace, and cloves, and the mixture was allowed to infuse for a week or so. From Kenelm Digby's The Closet of Sir K.D., written sometime before 1648:
To make Cock-Ale. Take eight Gallons of Ale; take a Cock and boil him well.
Or, the explanation could be a prosaic one, that it comes from the practice of inserting rooster feathers into a drink, much like we do today with paper umbrellas.
Finally, here is one that is certainly false, but it has a wonderful folkloric quality to it. According to the tale, long ago an Aztec noble, in an attempt to curry favor, sent the emperor a drink by the hand of his daughter, Xochitl. The emperor liked the drink so much that he married the daughter and named the concoction after her. The term was introduced to the United States by soldiers returning from the Mexican-American War (1846-47). A great story, but alas the evidence shows that the word cocktail was in use more than forty years before that war.
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The OED shows the first usage, in terms of an alcoholic drink, to be 1809, and says that the term is slang, primarily American, and of uncertain providence.

So let's make up an etymology.... I actually think IhateMrPotatoHead is on the right track...

By the way, why is IHMPH going to try to corrupt Gtmac on his birthday? Will this have anything to do with cocktails?
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No one said she wasn't in on it...
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No one said she wasn't in on it...
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Does that mean you'd like to join us sabreur?
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Does that mean you'd like to join us sabreur?
Nyet...

Salacious details only, thank you....
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Lettuce...tomato...cucumber...carrot...croutons... dressings...
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*makes hat over head with hands* That was just too much information....
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Ahhh ...my salad days, when I was green in judgement, cold in blood...
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Lettuce contemplate this, endive into it further...
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Oooh, olive it when you talk like that.
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