-
Din Älskling
Array California Legislators Approved Same-Sex Marriage In all the turmoil from the hurricane, California managed to push through legislation that allows same-sex marriage. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,168643,00.html
Keep in mind that CA voters approved of Prop 22 that prohibited CA from acknowledging same sex marriages from other states and countries.
I honestly still don't see the reason as to how same-sex marriage presents a threat to the American family. If the Church doesn't want to recognize the marriage, so be it, they don't have to. "Since when does being a patriot in America mean shutting your mouth?"
--- zz,zz,zz,zz,zz,zz! -
Curmudgeon Emeritus
Array Has Der Governator indicated that he's inclined to sign it? -
Senior Member
Array This'll be interesting. The state's voters defeated this by proposition overwhelmingly, with even San Francisco voting against it. But the legislature passed it anyway.
The Democrat legislators had nothing to lose by doing so, since the whole assembly is gerrymandered into near-absolute job security, and this isn't likely to be a career-killing vote one way or the other.
But the governor has indicated he would veto the bill, on the basis that (wait for it... wait for it...) this is an issue properly left to the courts to decide.
Seems like no matter what the Gov does, he's going to upset a lot of his Republican base on this one. Good luck, Arnie! "What did I tell you about being stupid? You don't get a birthday this year." -
Senior Member
Array One of the arguments I've heard is that ONLY 19% of Californians approved Prop 22 in the first place, so how can you call that a majority. I don't agree with that argument but it is making the rounds. Quidquid latine dictum sit altum videtur
Six of one, half-a-dozen of the other
TANSTAAFL -
Senior Member
Array That's like saying only a minority of the population voted, so nobody's bound by the outcome. Idiotic argument. "What did I tell you about being stupid? You don't get a birthday this year." -
Posting Hound
Array  Originally Posted by esskreemr In all the turmoil from the hurricane, California managed to push through legislation that allows same-sex marriage. Congrats Californians, it's a step into the 21st century. -
 Originally Posted by Zilverzmurfen Congrats Californians, it's a step into the 21st century.  don't get ahead of yourself this is the american two step; one step forward one step back 100 years. -
 Originally Posted by gojujay One of the arguments I've heard is that ONLY 19% of Californians approved Prop 22 in the first place, so how can you call that a majority. I don't agree with that argument but it is making the rounds. I went and looked at the results -- the Proposition was passed by 61.4% of the voters while 38.6% voted against the proposition.
Arguments which use a percentage of the total population don't make sense, and you have to look at the voters in the state. if its a state law. Else its sort of like saying no law is legitimate since it was never approved by a majority of every woman, man, and child in the state (or country.... or world...) -
Posting Hound
Array The status quo is good too....BC, has a booming tourist trade of Americans who want a same sex marriage... they're legal here and a nice place to visit! Beer, it's whats for dinner! ~ a young snowboarding Canadian The meek don't want it! ~ sticker on a rock band's guitar -
 Originally Posted by Zilverzmurfen Congrats Californians, it's a step into the 21st century.  It looks like the Governor of California is going to Veto the bill, since it goes against the previous public vote on the topic. (see my other posting). Ref: http://www.latimes.com/news/politics...lines-politics
If the California State Assembly and Senate want to pass this law, they'll have to override the Governor's veto by a 2/3rds majority vote, if memory serves. However, this is unlikely as the Democratic Party doesn't have a 2/3 rds majority in the state legislature, and it will be somewhat perilous in general for a legislator to overturn something the state's voting population has rejected by a 60/40 margin.
As it is, the California Surpreme Court has not yet ruled on the constitutionality of Prop 22, so putting a lot of political capital in fighting this specific battle before the 2006 state elections probably isn't going to happen either. -
 Originally Posted by Have At You But the governor has indicated he would veto the bill, on the basis that (wait for it... wait for it...) this is an issue properly left to the courts to decide. That's right, the legislature shouldn't legislate, we should leave that to the courts. Damn activist judges. Where are they when you need 'em? -
 Originally Posted by gojujay One of the arguments I've heard is that ONLY 19% of Californians approved Prop 22 in the first place, so how can you call that a majority. I don't agree with that argument but it is making the rounds. That's somewhat true. I don't agree with much of California's legislative system...but if it was passed within the bounds of their constitution, that's their problem.
I think that's great, and I can't wait until my state catches up... Similar Threads -
By Antonio in forum Fencing Discussion
Replies: 0
Last Post: 03-10-2003, 10:31 AM
Posting Permissions
- You may not post new threads
- You may not post replies
- You may not post attachments
- You may not edit your posts
Forum Rules |