What's your winning percentage

["Fence like a Cat"]

The 'winning percentage' is computed easily by dividing the wins by the total number bouts. This statistic is normally maintained in college level competition, typically by the competitive season.

Consider this statistic equivalent to a 'batting average' for fencing.

I am curious on whether fencers on the board maintain this statistic for themselves by the season and as a career statistic. Then the question is whether you maintain the stat for USFA sanctioned events only?

There are all sorts of variations of this stat...competition type/level, against left handers, by age, etc.

Marty

[AndrewH]

(holy crap! andrew's posting again!)

I never bothered to keep track for USFA events, but yes in college we do use a similar system called power ratings. I'll leave oiuyt to explain that because he knows it better than I do. I did keep close track of that statistic throughout the season, because it determines your seed for the Regional competition.

["Fence like a Cat"]

Power Rating is somewhat different

(From Appendix B, NCAA Selection of teams and individuals)
Championships formula for seeding allocated positions

Normalizing factor (NF) = 100 - total bouts x 30

Season Strength factor (SSF) = NF + value of all bouts fenced / 100

Take the NF and add the value of all rank points of a fencer's opponent and divide that by 100. The result is that everybody will have in effect fenced 100 bouts. If I actually fence 64, then the other 36 are counted as if they we 30s in rank points 9unclassified fencers per chart).

Individual Strength Factor (ISF) = the value of rank points from bouts won / total # of wins

Victories/bouts% (V/B%) = total # of victories / Total # bouts fenced (the winning percentage)

Fencer Power Ranking = <SSF + ISF> x V/B%

[Purple Fencer]

What is this "winning" thing you speak of??

[veeco]

I used to keep track of every bout I fenced in a spreadsheet, and computed my winning percentage yearly. I have stopped doing that now, it takes too much time.

[noodle]

it depends on what you're asking for.
my win % for all NCAA format dual meets i've attended is 86%. all those results are pretty easy for me to access. it'd be a bigger task for me to calculate my overall total for all events i have results for.

[Sciurus-Rex]

I have a perfect record: I complete every bout I begin.

[melihop]

I did all my percentages for last high school season, for the girls team it was a lot of fun and i made my friends help me get the info into the computers after meets... For high school meets, 5 point bouts, varsity i was in the high 70s not sure exactly what... for 5 point buts JV i was in the low 90s, (i mostly lost aginst girls i lost to int he varsity bouts!)

[bigdawg2121]

Wow...my coach used to keep track of the lifetime records of all ofhis students for the periods of time that were his students (i.e. not at college etc.) You knew you had made it when you hit the front page of the huge stack...but personally I think stopped counting shortly after I hit 500 or 600 individual bout wins, which considering how many bouts you generally lose puts it about 800 bouts, and that was like 4/5yrs ago. Too much paper to keep track of.

[Inquartata]

Sounds like a swell way to kill the fun of fencing: bring math into it.

[Purple Fencer]

Originally Posted by Inquartata

Sounds like a swell way to kill the fun of fencing: bring math into it.

Sabeurs + math = NOT a good combo....I did a sabre tourney in SoCal once that involved this...2 pools...all of the guys in my pool happened to also fence foil or epee in addition to sabre....the entire other pool was pure sabeurs (Falcon Fencing).

My pool...no probs with the calculations...the other pool? utter chaos...Boris had never taught the kids how to complete a pool sheet.

After 30 minutes of trying to figure it out, Father Calhoun threw his arms up, swore a bit (those who know Father understand!), and made them seed trhe DE tree based on the pool sheets as they stood....no one could figure it out because of all the erasure marks and lack of memory of pool results by the members of the pool...

[broncofencer]

I have kept track of all my stats from all comps since I started competing its actually really easy. I just keep a small note book with me at the strip and write down my results as a W for win an L for a loss and the score. Then I plug it into excel and keep it on the computer. it does all the actual math and no paper is needed other than my $.50 note pad.
Now the program tells me my percentages my totals, and my Average # of touches per bout

Mine is only at like 30-40% because when I started in college I went to more tournaments and got my butt handed to me now that I fence better the real world doesn't let me fence as much.

[Jvanhousen]

Originally Posted by Fence like a Cat

The 'winning percentage' is computed easily by dividing the wins by the total number bouts.Marty

A straight win/loss percentage doesn't tell you much.
Consider someone who wins all their pool bouts and loses the first DE. They could end up in the round of 64 w/ an 86% ratio. Or, you could bomb 5 of your 6 pool bouts, snap out of it, and win all the DEs and the tournament for a 58% ratio.
Personally, I'll take the latter over the former (in fact, I did )

[noodle]

Originally Posted by Jvanhousen

A straight win/loss percentage doesn't tell you much.

like someone mentioned earlier, it depends on the competition
sure, a USFA tournament's win %s won't tell you much.
but it will if you're talking collegiate dual meet style.

[broncofencer]

Originally Posted by Jvanhousen

A straight win/loss percentage doesn't tell you much.
Consider someone who wins all their pool bouts and loses the first DE. They could end up in the round of 64 w/ an 86% ratio. Or, you could bomb 5 of your 6 pool bouts, snap out of it, and win all the DEs and the tournament for a 58% ratio.
Personally, I'll take the latter over the former (in fact, I did )

For that reason I keep those seperate and do my stat pages as DE, POOL and Total. It tells me my win % for each both in the tournament and overall.
I have really found all this useful for planning the next seasons travels I can for example see that I tend to do better certain tournamnets for different reasons and decide if I wish to go back. or go somewhere else. also it helps with goal setting.

[D'Art]

Personally, I just keep fencing till either someone gets 15 hits before me, or I run out of opponents