09-03-2005, 06:29 PM
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| Fencing Knickers Suck
Fencing knickers just don't make sense. The only reason they don't cover the shins is because fencing knickers are modelled after the style pants the European men used to wear.
I was thinking about buy some shin guards like these but then it looks kind of bulky. | 
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09-03-2005, 06:36 PM
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| well, since they fast right below the knee, they dont really pull much. With pants, if you lunge, you have some resistance. There should be a better way, though. Though, if you look at it, there must be a good reason, since they look like baseball or football pants.
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09-03-2005, 07:03 PM
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| Fencing clothing must not be so loose that it could catch a point....which may result in a broken blade and following injury.
Full on pants would be too prone to catching the blade, eithe ron a bad attack or an epee shot to the lower extremities.
Knickers that are relatively form fitting cut the risk of a caught point...it's a safety issue. | |
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09-03-2005, 07:05 PM
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| Actually, quite a few fencers wears those shin guards. Laura Flessel, Eric Srecki, and a few others do. You can use the same ones as those used by soccer players.
Personnaly, I don't get hit there too often, and the hits aren't that painful once you get used to them.
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09-03-2005, 08:12 PM
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| There is a much better solution: just switch to sabre.... | |
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09-03-2005, 08:14 PM
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| My breeches are kinda loose, sigh. Ordered them straight from LP, couldn't try them on (obviously) so I went with the sizing chart. Could have gone a size down to a 36, but sigh. Couldn't return them because I needed them the following weekend.. Ah well.
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09-03-2005, 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by tkrivosh There is a much better solution: just switch to sabre.... | Profanity Edit. Gav. That's always the answer for anything and every thing from you retards.
"Just do saber!"
"I don't care I do saber."
"Try switching to saber."
You guys don't understand that the rest of us can't do saber since our parents knew eachother.
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09-04-2005, 09:35 AM
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| I would wear something like that if I fenced epee but I would want something that covers the knee also. Actually dont see how epeeist get away without protecting their knees more. Last time I fenced epee I received a hard hit on the kneecap... I remembering thinking, GOD she just hit me on my sore knee! | |
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09-04-2005, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by ReverseLunge You guys don't understand that the rest of us can't do saber since our parents knew eachother. | And apparently were related to each other, as well.
You can't do sabre because you can't do sabre, that's all.  | |
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09-04-2005, 12:32 PM
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| Knickers aren't unique to fencing
all sports which require clothing on the lower body use them
Football
Baseball ect.
What’s wrong with them? I suppose that part of the body isn’t covered by 800n fabric, but dont see shin-hits as that common in epee.
Maybe when they develop the full body lame it can include 800n conductive socks  | |
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09-04-2005, 01:15 PM
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| Some vendors used to sell fencing pants that came all the way down and there is certainly nothing in the rules that precludes the wearing of such pants. It is just tradition that keeps them as knee pants.
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09-04-2005, 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Inquartata And apparently were related to each other, as well.
You can't do sabre because you can't do sabre, that's all. | I can do saber just fine and Inquartata you be fittin to die! | |
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09-04-2005, 05:05 PM
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| A long time ago, I attended a tournament as a spectator. I observed that there was one slender fencer who elected to wear white pants (sweats?) instead of the knickers that everyone else was wearing. I noticed that when he went en-garde, the pants would bind on his legs. He would have to reach down with his non-weapon hand and hitch them up to retain comfort and mobility. I noticed him do this once, then a second time during a bout. His opponent noticed it too. His opponent knew that for that brief fraction of a second that he was hitching up his pant leg, he was not focused on the bout. The third time he reached down, his opponent lunged, scoring a clean, undefended touche.
I have always figured that the knickers gave fencers the ability to move freely without disctacting them from the task at hand. I didn't own any until I took up epee. When I did, I figured the knicers would make it harder for my opponents to get leg touches on me than sweats would. I find the knickers to be far more comfortable than sweats. I still fence in sweats occasionally, but if I really want to be comfortable and have no distractions, I'll definitely use the knickers.
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09-04-2005, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by LUDICROUS My breeches are kinda loose, sigh. Ordered them straight from LP, couldn't try them on (obviously) so I went with the sizing chart. Could have gone a size down to a 36, but sigh. Couldn't return them because I needed them the following weekend.. Ah well. | i've heard that before, and it makes me wonder, is it that uncommon to sew fecing gear to fit well? when i first got my stuff from school (read: very limited choices), it took in the knickers, put darts in the waist, and took in the jacket from the back. i've taken in things for other people, too. it's still loose, but much more comfortable.
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09-04-2005, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by ReverseLunge I can do saber just fine and Inquartata you be fittin to die! | Unquestionably. As are we all.
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09-04-2005, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by ReverseLunge Profanity Edit. Gav. That's always the answer for anything and every thing from you retards.
"Just do saber!"
"I don't care I do saber."
"Try switching to saber."
You guys don't understand that the rest of us can't do saber since our parents knew eachother. | Since the last sentence is absolutely incomprehensible, I suspect there is a deep reason why you don't fence sabre 
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09-04-2005, 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by tkrivosh Since the last sentence is absolutely incomprehensible, I suspect there is a deep reason why you don't fence sabre | See what I mean? Low IQ. | |
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09-05-2005, 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ReverseLunge See what I mean? Low IQ. | Aha, so you admit it? | |
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09-05-2005, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by ReverseLunge See what I mean? Low IQ. | Since it was obviously meant to imply that I possess low IQ, I would advise you to be careful with such statements. Of course IQ perception is very relative, and by some people standards I undoubtedly have low IQ, I also happen to have a PhD in Physics. | |
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