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edew · 09-09-2005, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DHCJr

For those going to watch or even those who are fencing, but get some free time and want to learn how to fix your own equipment, we will again have the same crew of incompetent Armorers, like Dan and Carl and a few others.

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Yeah, those guys are the most incompetent I've seen

If it weren't for the beer money I drop on them, they'd never get anything done!

Speaking of which, Donald, what timing rules will be used in the foil and saber events?

DHCJr · 09-09-2005, 02:47 PM

The Official 'Test' timing, that was supposed to be just for the World Cups. Orange Coast had to pay out $400 without reinbursement, to update the machines we have.

We do have enough equipment coming in, but if someone or a club has equipment they want checked or worked on bring it with them. We will work on them, time permitting.

Purple Fencer · 09-09-2005, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by edew

Yeah, those guys are the most incompetent I've seen

If it weren't for the beer money I drop on them, they'd never get anything done!

A little Guiness goes a long way, huh??

Inquartata · 09-09-2005, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DHCJr

In other words, make sure your equipment is legal and don't give the excuse that it was passed somewhere else. We have one of SEMI that makes the rules.

Word to the wise: sabre fencers, check the mask connector tab on your lame for legal dimensions NOW! The manufacturers seem to feel that this is an unimportant detail, the armorers do NOT. Save yourselves a hasty interlude with needle, thread and a bit of lame material at the weapons check table!

Inquartata · 09-14-2005, 02:05 AM

Say---when did the LBI go to an entry deadline and pre-payment required?

akaiyuki · 09-14-2005, 02:17 AM

I should be going - if I am then it will be my first USFA tournament wheehoo! And I'm probably gonna end up doing mixed foil instead of women's foil because it's easier for me to get a ride on sunday.

telkanuru · 09-14-2005, 02:32 AM

Yeah, CA is a bit of a drive, sorry all

DHCJr · 09-14-2005, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Inquartata

Say---when did the LBI go to an entry deadline and pre-payment required?

It has been a number of years. Consider last year, how long would it be to enter in over 100 Epeeist into a database and set up the pools? It has grown to big to not do that.

Ordway · 09-14-2005, 12:04 PM

I'm going for women's sabre.

Just out of curiosity, what's up with naming open tournaments as "invitational"? I never ran into those on the East Coast, but now I've seen several already in CA. At first I thought "Oh, I wonder how one goes about getting invited?" but then I realized... you just invite yourself!

lovetofence · 09-14-2005, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Ordway

I'm going for women's sabre.

Just out of curiosity, what's up with naming open tournaments as "invitational"? I never ran into those on the East Coast, but now I've seen several already in CA. At first I thought "Oh, I wonder how one goes about getting invited?" but then I realized... you just invite yourself!

Your so right. I really don't think it's right to call any tournament an invitational unless it really is one. What's wrong in calling it an Open?
You don't see NAC being called NACI's...

oiuyt · 09-14-2005, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by lovetofence

You don't see NAC being called NACI's... :blah:

You also don't see them being called open NACs anymore either... :)

Maybe it's because people figure that LBO's are something more interesting to New York financiers than to SoCal fencers?

-B :)

DHCJr · 09-14-2005, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Ordway

I'm going for women's sabre.

Just out of curiosity, what's up with naming open tournaments as "invitational"? I never ran into those on the East Coast, but now I've seen several already in CA. At first I thought "Oh, I wonder how one goes about getting invited?" but then I realized... you just invite yourself!

It is because it was started as a NCAA Collegiate Invitational. There is no longer a Long Beach State team, so having a Collegiate Invitational would be a waste. It also sounds better to have the 32nd LBI than the 1st LBO. Having something last that long looks better.

The reason the school had an Invitational is because of NCAA rules, you had a limited number of days you could compete, but your chances of sending fencers to nationals was based on the number of NCAA teams you competed against. So getting a lot of East Coast teams to come to sunny California helped are fencers.

Also, we would have to pay for new signs and I will tell you this, Scrooge had nothing on Coach.

edew · 09-14-2005, 01:49 PM

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Also, we would have to pay for new signs and I will tell you this, Scrooge had nothing on Coach.

Yeah, I understand you guys are still using those 1960s scoring machines, and to get them to work with new timings, you had to clean up the wires so that the conductance was higher.

Ordway · 09-14-2005, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DHCJr

It is because it was started as a NCAA Collegiate Invitational. There is no longer a Long Beach State team, so having a Collegiate Invitational would be a waste. It also sounds better to have the 32nd LBI than the 1st LBO. Having something last that long looks better.

The reason the school had an Invitational is because of NCAA rules, you had a limited number of days you could compete, but your chances of sending fencers to nationals was based on the number of NCAA teams you competed against. So getting a lot of East Coast teams to come to sunny California helped are fencers.

Interesting! I like knowing the history behind things.

Purple Fencer · 09-14-2005, 03:28 PM

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Also, we would have to pay for new signs and I will tell you this, Scrooge had nothing on Coach.

Then how was I able to talk her into buying those new tables???

'Course, I DID pitch it as a safety matter, since those wooden once was falling apart...

DHCJr · 09-14-2005, 10:05 PM

To Eric and Sam. First we do have some machines from the '60's Leon Paul, Kessinger and machines from the '80's Uhlmann and AllStar, but we don't use them, we have 8 St. George with the new timings and 8 strips for local competitions.

It wasn't a hard sell, when you consider the wooden tables, were rented for the year, each and every year. The new ones paid for themselves very quickly. The plastic chairs are the divisions. Renting is expensive.

Have you seen what is used to move the equipment between the gym and the armory. Don't tell the grocery store where their cart is!

counterattack · 09-23-2005, 07:18 PM

127 fencers for Open Mixed Epee?

http://askfred.net/Events/whoIsComin...nament_id=1115

I think that makes it bigger than Duel in the Desert even. Good for them! PCS is really going nuts

Purple Fencer · 09-23-2005, 07:46 PM

Mary Bessel's doing sabre??

Note to self....get earplugs!!

akaiyuki · 09-23-2005, 08:06 PM

110 mixed foil too... insane!

Last year there were only 88? .__. It's more expensive this yr too. Fuuuun.

veeco · 09-23-2005, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by counterattack

127 fencers for Open Mixed Epee?

http://askfred.net/Events/whoIsComin...nament_id=1115

I think that makes it bigger than Duel in the Desert even. Good for them! PCS is really going nuts

It's just because people want to get a chance to fence me... ;-)

Looks for even more Frenchies coming to PCS circuits. I'm working on getting at least 4 of them (including 2 national team members) to Duel in the Desert this year.