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Old 08-26-2005, 06:40 PM   #21
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Originally Posted by whtouche
Maybe another example will help get everyone on the same page. A makes an attack, B stands still and attemps a parry. B positions his blade for a head parry, A's attack completely misses B, hits neither target nor blade, anything. B now has the riposte by virtue of the fact that A missed his attack. B's searching for a parry and not finding it does not negate the fact that A missed his attack, giving B the right to riposte.
This is a differenct case altogether. B has not made an unsuccessful cut at A during the action. So B does have ROW here. Albeit I would still say that technically it's not a riposte but a separate attack. Riposte is a term of convenience widely used because everyone understands it and knows what is meant; but strictly speaking there can be no riposte without a parry, and no parry without blade or bell contact...

In fencerbill's original scenario, only if As attack comes to an unsuccessful conclusion after the failed stop cut by B would ROW pass to B ( and not always then---sometimes there's a perceptible pause of startlement or wit-gathering by a defender which permits a retaking of the ROW by an attacker ).
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