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Morion · 08-02-2005, 05:57 PM

I was on vacation in Pennsylvania last week and had a chance to watch some of the fencing events in the Keystone State Games. It was obviously not a USFA event in that there was no armorer to check and pass gear. They even tried to snatch me out of the spectator ranks to keep score and nobody there even knew I was a fencer. I did enjoy watching the events though (Open and Vetrans Epee). In particular there was a gentleman in his 70's named Pete Folgner. It was quite interesting to watch. He didn't move all that much but when he did he scored a touch and when he was attacked more often than not he would get a touch also. This gives me hope that age and guile can overcome youth and skill. I checked the results and he took a bronze btw.

Peach · 08-02-2005, 07:08 PM

And you didn't say hi! Who were you? I was the veteran woman in the sabre event, wearing the dreaded Transparent Visor mask.

The tournament was conducted as a USFA event--most local tournaments don't have weapons/mask check.

Pete is a cool guy. He did the sabre too.

fencerbill · 08-02-2005, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Peach

Pete is a cool guy. He did the sabre too.

Claus-Peter Folgner was first alternate to go the 2003 Veterans World Championships in Limoges, France, in both Foil and Sabre in over-60.

copfencer · 08-03-2005, 01:19 AM

Folgner is a legend to us older fencers and is a mainstay at tournaments. He, and a clubmate of mine, John Duryea, are inspirational in their skill and knowledge. Also...the Keystone Games were a great experience for a newbie like me.

Morion · 08-03-2005, 12:37 PM

Hi Peach! I was only there for about 2 hours on Saturday morning. I just saw a few of the Epee bouts. If you were there at that time I was the hairy looking guy with a beard and a pony-tail. I was talking with Bogdan Haiko from Corsair for a bit but mostly just hanging out watching.

fencerchica · 08-03-2005, 02:50 PM

Hey! I was there too. :-) Saturday for WF open, Sunday for WE open. Yeah, it was a smallish event, and I didn't get a new stamp on my mask or my lame, but it was really kind of neat to have the whole mini-Olympic atmosphere. The people there were also all delightfully friendly, and I got a chance to relax and chat with various friends, including the charming Mr. Folgner. It was also great to just run up 83 from Baltimore and be in York in about 30-40 minutes.

Hiya, Peach! Now I've finally got a face to go with your posts! I watched a few of your bouts Sunday, including the gold medal bout which was quite a lot of fun to see. I'm Lawson -- I was one of the 2 bronze medalists in WE. What was the name of the gentleman, a friend of yours, who was directing the WE pool that day? The one who looks kind of like Sean Bean? I know he posts here and am kicking myself for being so dreadful with names!

Peach · 08-03-2005, 03:24 PM

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I was one of the 2 bronze medalists in WE. What was the name of the gentleman, a friend of yours, who was directing the WE pool that day? The one who looks kind of like Sean Bean? I know he posts here and am kicking myself for being so dreadful with names!

Congratulations on your medal! I wish I'd known that was you. I know exactly who you mean, and I've gone blank on his name/username. Shoot--maybe he'll read this and enlighten us.

oiuyt · 08-03-2005, 03:24 PM

Are the Keystone State Games open to non-PA residents (noting that fencerchica apparently lives in Maryland)?

Wish it hadn't been on the weekend I was in CO for Coaches College, otherwise I would have attended. Also wish the "State Games of America" (a biannual national-level competition for medalists from state games), which WAS in Colorado Springs the weekend I was there included fencing. Or that Garden State Games hadn't happened 2 weeks before I closed on my new house in New Jersey. Fates conspired to keep me out of any state games competitions this year.... :)

-B :)

Peach · 08-03-2005, 03:43 PM

This year it was open to non-residents, though there was some discussion about whether the big championship trophies had to go to a state resident--dunno how that was resolved

It's one of the few events in the summer in our area, which is why I go

fencerchica · 08-03-2005, 03:50 PM

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This year it was open to non-residents, though there was some discussion about whether the big championship trophies had to go to a state resident--dunno how that was resolved

I went through that for the WF competition Saturday, it was pretty entertaining really. I believe at first they thought they could let me have the cup since I had, after all, been allowed to fence upon having paid my out-of-state fees. But when Mrs. Kane checked the Keystone Games rules to be sure, it turned out that the cup goes to the top-placing PA resident, along with a gold medal -- a second one though, with the top finisher getting to keep hers. (Whew! I could live without having to bring the cup back next year, but I would've been sad to get no medal!!) Both myself and the silver medalist were out-of-state, too.

fencerchica · 08-03-2005, 03:53 PM

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Congratulations on your medal! I wish I'd known that was you. I know exactly who you mean, and I've gone blank on his name/username. Shoot--maybe he'll read this and enlighten us.

Thanks!! :-D I really had a fun time, especially since epee is not my primary weapon and I had gone in with no expectations. (and therefore no stress, which was great)

Next time I see you, I'll be sure to say hello. :-)

ShadowHuntr · 08-03-2005, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by oiuyt

Are the Keystone State Games open to non-PA residents (noting that fencerchica apparently lives in Maryland)?

Wish it hadn't been on the weekend I was in CO for Coaches College, otherwise I would have attended. Also wish the "State Games of America" (a biannual national-level competition for medalists from state games), which WAS in Colorado Springs the weekend I was there included fencing. Or that Garden State Games hadn't happened 2 weeks before I closed on my new house in New Jersey. Fates conspired to keep me out of any state games competitions this year....

-B

This year the keystone games were opened up to several middle atlantic states that do not have state games, such as DE and MD. However although Maryland does not have a state game they still have a FENCING state championship, but it was stated that they were allowed to participate if they paid the out of state fee and they did.

daveappr · 08-04-2005, 12:45 AM

Hi Peach- it was great to see you again, and nice meeting you fencerchica. I'm glad to hear you enjoyed the events. From all that I've gathered, there were few complaints and it appeared to me that the event went quite smoothly. And I agree, the people were all very friendly- especially Pete "Ironman" Folgner, I wonder where he keeps all that chocolate he keeps giving out at tournaments....

Peach · 08-04-2005, 01:29 AM

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Hi Peach- it was great to see you again, and nice meeting you fencerchica. I'm glad to hear you enjoyed the events. From all that I've gathered, there were few complaints and it appeared to me that the event went quite smoothly. And I agree, the people were all very friendly- especially Pete "Ironman" Folgner, I wonder where he keeps all that chocolate he keeps giving out at tournaments....

Yeah, THAT was your username. I think having you compared to Sean Bean is what drove it out of my head.

Pete knows the way to a lady's heart is chocolate.

SmokeyTheCat263 · 08-04-2005, 02:30 AM

Being a PA resident and an ex-keystone game champ myself, I can only wonder, who won?

Results anyone?

great bowyer · 08-04-2005, 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheCat263

Being a PA resident and an ex-keystone game champ myself, I can only wonder, who won?

Results anyone?

i think the u20 mens epee was
1. Kraft
2. Beatey (sp?)
3. Sher (sp?)
not sure of the rest the rest. and the spelling.

for the vet mens epee, i think stoner, and folgner were in the top 3, but not sure of anyone else.

daveappr · 08-04-2005, 09:54 AM

Smokey- I cut these results from the KSG website enjoy!

2005 Fencing Results
Open Veteran Mixed Epee
Gold Stoner Jr., Charles J-LEBY
Silver Doom, Terrie LpCHMB
Bronze Folgner, Claus-Peter-WBF
Bronze Spahr, Gregory-BDF

Open Junior Women's Epee
Gold Angstadt, Megan-WBF
Silver Diamond, Abby-LFC
Bronze Touey, Amanda E-BDF
Bronze Leathers, Samantha-CORSAIR

Open Junior Men's Epee
Gold Kraft, Dennis A-LFC
Silver Beatty, Brendon-CORSAIR
Bronze Sher, Eric A-SJ
Bronze Marthens, Adam F-CORSAIR

Open Mixed Sabre
Gold Beatty, Brendon-CORSAIR
Silver Kraft, Dennis A-LFC
Bronze Ndiaye, Ibrahima-PFC
Bronze Turner, Delia M-FAP

Open Men's Foil
Gold Ndiaye Ibrahima-PFC
Silver Kraft, Dennis A-LFC
Bronze Shaner, Jared D-BDF
Bronze Haiko, Bogdan-CORSAIR

Open Women's Foil
Gold Lawson, Marie-BFC
Silver Leathers, Samantha-CORSAIR
Bronze Wagner, Lindsey-CORSAIR
Bronze Touey, Amanda E-BDF

FE30M, FE01
Gold Ndiaye, Ibrahima LVL
Silver Kraft, Dennis ALG
Bronze Shaner, Jared CAP
Bronze Haiko, Bogdan ALG
FE 30F and FE30M, FE03
Gold Beatty, Brendon ALG
Silver Kraft, Dennis ALG
Bronze Ndiaye, Ibrahima LVL
Bronze Turner, Dehlia DVL
FE20M, FE02
Gold Kraft, Dennis ALG
Silver Beatty, Brendon ALG
Bronze Sher, Eric BMT
Bronze Marthens, Adam ALG
FE40M and FE40F, FE02
Gold Stoner, Charles
Silver Doom, Terrie CAP
Bronze Folger, Claus-Peter NIT
Bronze Spahr, Greg POC

FE20F, FE02
Gold Angstadt, Megan NIT
Silver Diamond, Abagail ALG
Bronze Tolley, Amanda POC
Bronze Leathers, Samantha ALG

FE20E, FE01
Gold Leathers, Samantha ALG
Silver Wagner, Lindsey ALG
Silver Tolley, Amanda POC
Bronze Baca, Allison CAP

FE40F and FE40M, FE01
Gold Nightengale, Andy BMT
Silver Spahr, Greg POC
Bronze Folgner, Claus-Peter NIT
Bronze Cervenak, Joe CAP

FE20F, FE01
Gold Leathers, Sam
antha ALG
Silver Tolley, Amanda POC
Bronze Baca, Allison CAP

FE20M, FE01
Gold Ellison, Patrick CAP
Silver Keating, Tim
ALG
Bronze Kuzmak, Michael POC
Bronze Buttorff, Warren NIT

FE30M, FE02
Gold Kraft, Dennis ALG
Silver Mellner, Steve POC
Bronze Marthens, Adam ALG
Bronze Beatty, Brendon ALG

FE20F and FE20m, FE03
Gold Hubbard, Dylan POC
Silver Augstadt, Megan NIT
Bronze Foust, Tyler CAP

FE40M and FE40F, FE03
Gold Beatty, Vincent ALG
Silver Turner, Delia DVL
Bronze Folgner, Claus-Peter NIT
Bronze Ploy, Edward NIT

FE30F, FE02
Gold Leathers, Samantha ALG
Silver Doom, Terry CAP
Bronze Orlando, Janin CAP
Bronze Lawson, Marie NR

Peach · 08-04-2005, 11:44 AM

Anybody have a link to digital pictures of the finalists for this event?

fencerchica · 08-04-2005, 12:44 PM

Nice meeting you too, daveappr! LOL... this is great: next time I forget your name, I can refer back to this thread.

Pete Folgner always gives out chocolate? Damn, and here I thought I was special!!

When I see him, I always remember a time when I was fencing a C (I only have my D in foil so far) who was at least a foot taller than me, at White Rose in York last April. I'd met and chatted with Peter a few minutes earlier, and when I started my bout, he came over and sat in my corner, giving me encouragement and really good advice. I was quite touched, and it was very helpful.

epee1 · 08-04-2005, 12:46 PM

I pray there is no link - as gross and sweaty as I was after fencing I'm hoping the camera developed serious technical difficulties and the pictures are never seen again. BTW Peach, it was great seeing you there. It's been quite some time since I had the pleasure of seeing you lay the smack down on all the saber men.