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Fechter1 · 09-20-2005, 12:14 PM

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So, congrats to the commitee and a big thank you for this nice week end of fencing!

Agreed. My only possible complaint was the lack of strips, which meant that the pools had to be fenced in two flights, which added about 1 1/2 hours to the day... That much downtime after the pools usually kills me, but in this case I got the chance to correct my cranial-rectal inversion from the blown pool and pull out a decent DE run.

So no harm done. Great weekend.

And I did get my wife to the airport in time, in case anyone was worried.

CvilleFencer · 09-20-2005, 12:38 PM

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Agreed. My only possible complaint was the lack of strips, which meant that the pools had to be fenced in two flights, which added about 1 1/2 hours to the day... That much downtime after the pools usually kills me, but in this case I got the chance to correct my cranial-rectal inversion from the blown pool and pull out a decent DE run.

So no harm done. Great weekend.

About the lack of strips, we had the rug pulled out from under us by the venue at the last minute. No sport in NoVA is apparently more important than girls volleyball and that is what kicked us out of the other gym at the last minute. We had planned out the event to have about 12-14 strips and saber was going to be in a whole other building, but we had to make do with 8 strips and the 20% cut. Thanks to the 12-13 hour days of the officers, Referees and BC folks I think it went pretty smoothly considering that we had something close to 150 fencers on 8 strips for Satruday and were still done by 8pm!

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And I did get my wife to the airport in time, in case anyone was worried.

Oh cool! I thought I had overheard that you had worked that out with Terry, otherwise I would have seen if some of my clubmates who were leaving early that day would have minded the detour. I am glad it worked out for you!

Fechter1 · 09-20-2005, 01:39 PM

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About the lack of strips, we had the rug pulled out from under us by the venue at the last minute. No sport in NoVA is apparently more important than girls volleyball and that is what kicked us out of the other gym at the last minute. We had planned out the event to have about 12-14 strips and saber was going to be in a whole other building, but we had to make do with 8 strips and the 20% cut. Thanks to the 12-13 hour days of the officers, Referees and BC folks I think it went pretty smoothly considering that we had something close to 150 fencers on 8 strips for Satruday and were still done by 8pm!

Ah, that explains it. Been there myself...

And I'm sorry that I forgot to mention the refs and BC folk. They did a great job as well.

And BTW, the results were up less than a day after the tournament. Good job on that as well.

JEC · 09-22-2005, 03:24 AM

BOBCAT 2005
Mixed Epee: 75 Competitors, a A4 Event 3 A's earned (B05 --> A05), 2 A's renewed (A04-->A05), 3 A's confirmed (A05 --> A05).
(18 As, 17 B's)
Mixed Foil: 55 Competitors, a A2 Event 1 B earned (C05 --> B05)
Mixed Saber: 54 Competitors, a C2 Event

KD5MDK · 09-22-2005, 03:34 AM

There are a lot of sabre fencers from the Bobcat right now saying "Why'd you knock the last B from the top 8?" and another says "Why did you?". Good event.

DHCJr · 10-03-2005, 12:06 AM

I want to thank everyone who came to the Long Beach Invitational. It is interesting that we were too big to use a DE table of 128 for Epee. A few things of note. We need to find a bigger facility with air conditioning. I hope everyone there felt the pools were done quick enough even with the shortage of strips. You may also notice that LBI does post a little quicker than the USFA and it is more complete. All results are up the night of the competition and they show every bout's results both pools and DE's.

Ordway · 10-03-2005, 12:33 AM

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I want to thank everyone who came to the Long Beach Invitational. It is interesting that we were too big to use a DE table of 128 for Epee. A few things of note. We need to find a bigger facility with air conditioning. I hope everyone there felt the pools were done quick enough even with the shortage of strips. You may also notice that LBI does post a little quicker than the USFA and it is more complete. All results are up the night of the competition and they show every bout's results both pools and DE's.

I was there for the WS (came in third) and definitely enjoyed it. Entry fee was steep but I was pleased to see that money was spent on paying for referees, and good ones too. WS did have a delay in getting started of about an hour due to the gargantuan numbers of epeeists, but once it got started it really moved along quickly, which was great. Posting of DEs was super-quick, and the whole thing rolled along at a nice brisk pace. The USFA could definitely learn a thing or two or three from the system used there, with the fast turn-around time on seeding, pools, and DEs.

One thing that I appreciated was that the floors were very clean and therefore not slippery. Very helpful. There were other very nice considerations of the fencers, like having water and ice readily on hand, and having decent food available for sale. Little things like that make for a more pleasant overall environment. Oh, and the arrows pointing the way to the gym were also helpful.

The only thing I wish is that the entry fee hadn't included the t-shirt. ("Free t-shirt with registration" is really the same thing as "price of t-shirt included in entry fee.") I'd probably have bought the shirt anyway (it's cute) but it'd have been nice to have been given the choice.

BTW, where are the results available? AskFred says they're not available yet, when I click on the "2005 results" link.

KD5MDK · 10-03-2005, 12:37 AM

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The only thing I wish is that the entry fee hadn't included the t-shirt. ("Free t-shirt with registration" is really the same thing as "price of t-shirt included in entry fee.") I'd probably have bought the shirt anyway (it's cute) but it'd have been nice to have been given the choice.

To be fair, printing 300 tshirts is probably reasonably cost effective, and if you can cover the entire cost of them in the entry fees it makes the profit off sales to others nice and gives a nice perk to everyone who entered. Not to mention it acts as advertising to everyone around. I make a bit of an effort to wear my Longhorn Open and US Nationals-Austin shirts whenever I can at tournaments.

counterattack · 10-03-2005, 02:45 AM

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To be fair, printing 300 tshirts is probably reasonably cost effective, and if you can cover the entire cost of them in the entry fees it makes the profit off sales to others nice and gives a nice perk to everyone who entered. Not to mention it acts as advertising to everyone around. I make a bit of an effort to wear my Longhorn Open and US Nationals-Austin shirts whenever I can at tournaments.

Free t-shirt? I forgot they promised that! They certainly didn't give one to me or any of my friends in epee. Now I am sad

oiuyt · 10-03-2005, 11:00 AM

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They certainly didn't give one to me or any of my friends in epee.

Well, that just makes it even MORE cost effective. :)

-B

Inquartata · 10-03-2005, 11:46 PM

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BTW, where are the results available? AskFred says they're not available yet, when I click on the "2005 results" link.

Here:

http://www.ocfencing.org/lbi2005_results_menu.htm

Complete with pool and DE results. The day after the tournament! And by the number of entrants it was as big and tougher than some NACs. Take note, USFA!

Very well run event as usual, though the east gym was a sweatlodge ( again as usual ). But where were the free massages this year?

KD5MDK · 10-04-2005, 12:49 AM

The Longhorn Open is coming up, the inagural event in the SWCC 2005-06 season. It's generally extremely well run, quality refereeing and competition. Also, those nice features like quality awards (not generic cheap printed medals), some aluminum grounded strips, quality reels and boxes, and lame checks, so your opponent doesn't get to use that lame with the basketball sized dead spot.

In short, anyone who is anyone in the SW section ought to be here, and everyone else ought to come and have a good time.

mfp · 10-04-2005, 01:00 AM

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Free t-shirt? I forgot they promised that! They certainly didn't give one to me or any of my friends in epee. Now I am sad

Don't be sad -- your T-shirt will be delivered to you tomorrow at the club. Thank Midi Cox for tracking down your clubmates to make sure your shirt makes it to you. Actually, everyone in the PCS really should thank Midi the next time they see her for everything she does for the section in general and for us as individuals!

Ordway · 10-04-2005, 02:10 PM

More kudos for the excellent running of the Long Beach Invitational. They sent out the information about ratings changes by email on Monday immediately after the tournament (i.e. yesterday) and so the changes were received in time for the USFA to update my rating before the Miami NAC!

Plus it was so nice to have the results go up so quickly.

It's really great to see tournament organizers handle an event so well!

fencerbill · 10-04-2005, 02:42 PM

Here are results of Veterans Challenge V.

http://www.neusfa.org/results/05-06/VetsV.html

148 in Endividual events, 98 in team events.
MF, ME, WF were B2, MS was B1, WE was C1. We need Peach and some of the others not to have distractions like winning World Silver medals to help out with WS.

Does anyone else know of other Veterans TEAM events? We had 29 teams with Open Epee largest with 10 teams.

Dates for next year are Oct 7-9, 2006.

Peach · 10-04-2005, 03:23 PM

Even so, I would have been there if I weren't also a teacher with classes starting the week before the Veterans Challenge. It's a really good event. However, sanity reared its ugly head.

peet · 10-04-2005, 03:35 PM

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BTW, where are the results available? AskFred says they're not available yet, when I click on the "2005 results" link.

FRED has the results now too, here. There was a delay getting them posted because the tournament was run on two computers. Craig had to email me the results files so I could merge them together and upload them.

I'm working on making FRED do that merge instead, so that in the future, the LOC can do the upload even if they used more than one computer.

-p

KD5MDK · 10-04-2005, 04:33 PM

When you say merge, are you talking about subdividing a tournament into multiple sections (Top half of tableau handled on Computer 1, bottom half on 2) or some sort of networked solution? Because with the proliferation of 802.11b/g and wired convention centers, a client/server style setup would be potentially very useful.

peet · 10-04-2005, 04:46 PM

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When you say merge, are you talking about subdividing a tournament into multiple sections (Top half of tableau handled on Computer 1, bottom half on 2) or some sort of networked solution? Because with the proliferation of 802.11b/g and wired convention centers, a client/server style setup would be potentially very useful.

No, no. Nothing nearly so fancy. They just did some events on one computer and some on another; a sensible procedure with a big tournament that I did not anticipate when I originally designed FRED's results upload procedures.

As for a client/server scheme for Fencing Time, Dan would be the authority on that, and I believe I've heard him make occasional noises about such, but I imagine such a thing would come after a number of other more pressing developments.

-p

KD5MDK · 10-04-2005, 05:24 PM

Well, that too makes sense. I just would like to see it.