Large non-NAC tournaments

[sabregrrl]

The Nick Toth will be held Sept 24-25, and the Falcon Open (another Air Force event) is Oct 29-30. The New Mexico Open is also a larger tournament. This year it will be held in Albuquerque (usually it was Santa Fe) on Nov. 5-6. Definitely stronger events in Epee than Sabre in all 3 tournaments.

For people in the Rocky Mountain region, the 4 Colorado Cups usually have a good epee turnout also - they vary depending on other events around the time (usually the first one (this year in Nov) and the one in Feb. are A2 events). The schedule will be up on www.colodivfencing.org by the end of the week. It would be great to see some of the other fencers in the region come to these. Foil fluctuates greatly year to year, doing better last year than previously and sabre is growing but still not at the level the epee is.

[sabreman]

The Capitol Division will also hold a new Veteran Open (3 Weapons Mens - Womens 40 and over) the weekend of 11/5-6/05. Stay tuned for further details.

[CvilleFencer]

Originally Posted by darius

Here you go. I made an Excel file with dates (months, currently, but I had dates for the NACs and DITD), places, information links, etc.

darius

Hey, thanks for the spreadsheet and thanks to Peach for getting the ball rolling by starting the list! One minor correction, on the spreadsheet you have the VA Kickoff in Richmond and the Hangover in the Plains. That is actually backwards. The VA kickoff is in the Plains and the Hangover is in Richmond. You can find out more details on both HERE and sign up for the Kickoff on Fred HERE so everyone mark your calendars. The Kickoff is a really good event. Not quite NAC size, but usually around 180+ total fencers for all three weapons.

[oiuyt]

Originally Posted by sabreman

The Capitol Division will also hold a new Veteran Open (3 Weapons Mens - Womens 40 and over) the weekend of 11/5-6/05. Stay tuned for further details.

Boo. That might cause problems with getting referees (for both) and fencers (for you) with the Temple Open conflict.

-B :)

[oiuyt]

Originally Posted by D+F+P=Hadouken!

So the bottom line is that it was not an a4 tournament, but an a3?

According to my reading/understanding of the rules and my count of ratings based on the results listed on AskFred (which, as noted above, is not guaranteed to be accurate), that would be the case.

-B :)

[Goofy]

Originally Posted by sabreman

The Capitol Division will also hold a new Veteran Open (3 Weapons Mens - Womens 40 and over) the weekend of 11/5-6/05. Stay tuned for further details.

Originally Posted by oiuyt

Boo. That might cause problems with getting referees (for both) and fencers (for you) with the Temple Open conflict.

-B

Are you indicating that the Temple Open will be open to all fencers this year, rather than being limited to college students? Otherwise, a referee availability conflict may be true but the fencers conflict shouldn't be, with the events being collegiate and veteran.

[Peach]

Originally Posted by oiuyt

Boo. That might cause problems with getting referees (for both) and fencers (for you) with the Temple Open conflict.

-B

You betcha--I'd opt for the tournament over refereeing any old day . . . though I'd undoubtedly be happy to referee the day I wasn't fencing.

[oiuyt]

Originally Posted by Goofy

Are you indicating that the Temple Open will be open to all fencers this year, rather than being limited to college students? Otherwise, a referee availability conflict may be true but the fencers conflict shouldn't be, with the events being collegiate and veteran.

No, I meant people like Peach (who was actually THE person I had in mind when posting) who historically has refereed for us but that I felt was likely to want to fence in a reasonably close vet event. I meant people who would either be in the prospective reffing pool for both events or the reffing pool for us and the fencers pool for the vet event (which is why I only listed it as a competitor conflict for the vet event).

The Temple Open continues to be limited to matriculated undergraduate college students.

-B :)

[Goofy]

Originally Posted by oiuyt

No, I meant people like Peach (who was actually THE person I had in mind when posting) who historically has refereed for us but that I felt was likely to want to fence in a reasonably close vet event. I meant people who would either be in the prospective reffing pool for both events or the reffing pool for us and the fencers pool for the vet event (which is why I only listed it as a competitor conflict for the vet event).

The Temple Open continues to be limited to matriculated undergraduate college students.

-B

Pfui- I thought it sounded too good to be true. Thank you for clarifying.

[sabreman]

Well hopefully it will still be a good event. Some of the vets (not me) down here in DC are putting it together. They want to make it annual event similar to the vet tournament up in Boston. I will pass along details when they become available.

[JEC]

Originally Posted by Peach

Here's the North American list of annual events mentioned in this thread so far, plus some other annual ones I know of (I didn't include the Nellya Event because it isn't yet clearly an annual--correct me if I'm wrong).

Amazon epee (women's epee)
Big Apple Open
Canadian Selection Circuits
Charm City
Cherry Blossom Open
Crescent City Open
Duel in the Desert
Liberty Cup tournaments (sabre)
London Heroes
Long Beach Invitational
Longhorn
Mr. Ma Cup
Nick Toth Invitational
Phoenix Cup
Pomme de Terre
Pouj
Remenyik
Rose Condon
Temple Open (collegiate fencers)
The Big One (collegiate fencers)
Tournoi Baton Rouge
Veterans Challenge (veteran fencers)
Virginia Hangover Open
Virginia Kickoff Open

Any comments? Events to add? Rankings?

In South Texas, we have strong Epee tournaments with probably 3 A4 tournaments this season: The Bobcat Open 2005 starts tomorrow. It has:
Mixed Epee 100 Fencers: 22A's, 17B's, 10C's, 11D's, 14E's, 26U's, could be a A4 event.
Mixed Foil 66 Fencers: 4A's, 7B's, 12C's, 14D's, 8E's, 21U's, could be a A2/C3 event.
Mixed Saber 57 Fencers: 3B's, 5C's, 5D's, 15E's, 29U's, could be a B2 event.
Last year, the mixed Epee tournament was an A3 tournament. The other two large annual tournaments are part of the list: The Longhorn Open (Oct.) and the Pouj Memorial (Jan). Both tournaments were A4 for mixed Epee last year.

[KD5MDK]

Thanks for noting the Bobcat, I was just coming to mention it.
Given a 100 fencer Epee prereg, this makes me very optimistic about the Longhorn and other SOTX events.

[epeeisky]

The Rose Condon in Bossier City(10 minutes from Shreveport), The Crescent City OPen, The Max Wright Vet tournament and there are a couple in Texas that I dont remember.

[D+F+P=Hadouken!]

Originally Posted by epeeisky

The Rose Condon in Bossier City(10 minutes from Shreveport), The Crescent City OPen, The Max Wright Vet tournament and there are a couple in Texas that I dont remember.

Dude, there is no crescent city open.

[JEC]

I wouldn't be that sure about it. The area around the French Quarter and the Hilton are relatively in good shape. They already are talking to reopen the convention center area by November.

[Frank Pratt]

Originally Posted by JEC

I wouldn't be that sure about it. The area around the French Quarter and the Hilton are relatively in good shape. They already are talking to reopen the convention center area by November.

Good point. However, I think the jury will be out for a while longer. It's 6 months away, and there are a few more pressing concerns at the moment.

[The Mormegil]

Just wait for richard to let everyone know. as far as i know it will most likely be held. the hotels will be running by then and mardi gras will have come and gone, and believe me it will take more than a little cat 5 hurricane to keep mardi gras from happening. besides if you all want we can all go bar hoping after the first day and fence drunk the next.

[epeeisky]

Originally Posted by D+F+P=Hadouken!

Dude, there is no crescent city open.

The Hilton where it is held is in pretty good shape, it is close to the convention center where all the evacuees were stranded. So besides a little clean up and exterior work to be done the Hilton is fine. Whether or not the clubs in the area will be able to host the tournament is the question.

[sreckiki]

Originally Posted by CvilleFencer

One minor correction, on the spreadsheet you have the VA Kickoff in Richmond and the Hangover in the Plains. That is actually backwards. The VA kickoff is in the Plains and the Hangover is in Richmond. You can find out more details on both HERE and sign up for the Kickoff on Fred HERE so everyone mark your calendars. The Kickoff is a really good event. Not quite NAC size, but usually around 180+ total fencers for all three weapons.

Just a quick post to advertise for the VA kickoff open because the people who organized it did a great job. In Epee, there were 95 fencers and it was a A4 event which is only the second one of the year in the DC area (the other one is the Cherry Blossom). In foil, there were 104 fencers for a B3 event. In saber, there were 35 fencers for a B2 event.

They didn't get as many stripes as they expected but they managed to keep the things going. And surprisingly, it didn't seem to me that it was a really long day. I didn't wait for hours between my bouts like it can happen sometimes.

So, congrats to the commitee and a big thank you for this nice week end of fencing!

[darius]

So, congrats to the commitee and a big thank you for this nice week end of fencing!

Amen! I had a good time, despite nearly disqualifying myself from Div2 competitions in 2 weapons. Fortunately, one of the refs made a conscientious effort to keep me from making this mistake.

The Kickoff was fun, if it continues to be as strong, I'll definitely return, and keep bringing Rochester folks.

There seemed to be some organizational hiccups on Saturday. Trying to figure out who/when/where for foil DEs was insane; however, those problems were solved on Sunday, when refs all got nice neat quadrants.

For the record, going to work today after a 7 hr drive wasn't the most fun thing in the world.

darius