07-19-2005, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Gav It's Sabreur plain and simple. Like Boo all the rest just grate on my nerves. And why do you need a gender specific one? | If you take the french term, why take it half-way? 
It's un sabreur et une sabreuse. Plain and simple!  | 
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07-19-2005, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Boo Boo fortunately I am a foilist 
Boo | And very feminine too | |
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07-19-2005, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Zilverzmurfen No, but that's because the words foilist and épéeist are english, and sabreur/sabreuse are french. | Ok, so what are the french words for the mae and female versions of foilist and epeeist? Got me curious now...!
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07-19-2005, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Tiwaz And very feminine too | Thank you (can't find a "blush" smiley...)
Boo
(doesn't know who Tiwaz is, but will look out for a fencer with very thick glasses and a white stick at the next competition she goes to ). | |
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07-19-2005, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Boo Boo Thank you (can't find a "blush" smiley...)
Boo
(doesn't know who Tiwaz is, but will look out for a fencer with very thick glasses and a white stick at the next competition she goes to ). | Who is also a Germanic god of war, by his name. | |
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07-19-2005, 12:19 PM
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| Regarding the feminine version, I've also heard them refer to themselves as "Sabureistas!" | |
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07-19-2005, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Boo Boo Ok, so what are the french words for the male and female versions of foilist and epeeist? Got me curious now...!
Boo | There's no distinction, it's:
- un épéiste et une épéiste
- un fleuretiste et une fleuretiste | |
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07-19-2005, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by sreckiki There's no distinction, it's:
- un épéiste et une épéiste
- un fleuretiste et une fleuretiste | now that we're making the necessary corrections to spelling, how 'bout pronounciation. is it e-paaay or aaayy-paayy for epee?? i see both accented e's but have never heard the aaayy-paay pronounciation. | |
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07-19-2005, 01:34 PM
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| I think that's just a function of people's tendency to slur some words. Or in this case, to flatten out the initial E.
Instead of all these words for sabre fencers, I propose "Excellencies". That strikes almost the right chord of awed respect which we ought to be accorded. | |
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07-19-2005, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by sarmaticus Who is also a Germanic god of war, by his name. | Half blind and worshipped for bringing death and destruction?...........sounds about right. | |
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07-19-2005, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by glowstix now that we're making the necessary corrections to spelling, how 'bout pronounciation. is it e-paaay or aaayy-paayy for epee?? i see both accented e's but have never heard the aaayy-paay pronounciation. | No, no, you say épée for epee! 
More seriously, the first é and the second one are pronounced the same way but I can't find out an english word which has this sound in it, sorry. (... and don't say Rendez-vous, folks!) | |
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07-19-2005, 03:03 PM
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| I pronounce the first "e" in "epee" like the flat "e" in "let."
I pronounce the final "ee" like the long "a" in "hay."
EP-pay.
Je ne parle pas de français. Donc, je n'essaie pas de prononcer des mots comme une personne française les prononcerait.
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02-13-2006, 07:08 AM
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| Just to make things more complicated, I was wondering, which spelling would you people go for : sabRE or sabER 
[quote=Inquartata]
Instead of all these words for sabre fencers, I propose "Excellencies". That strikes almost the right chord of awed respect which we ought to be accorded.  I like this one... | |
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02-13-2006, 07:20 AM
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| Yes! FB, you really have something there!
Most of the time I just answer to my last name screamed by the director on the strip at the start of pools and d.e.'s.
Sabre people, saber folk. It's all ok with me.
Even "hey you!" works.
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02-13-2006, 07:52 AM
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| I think that sabreurs have been more concerned about how the actions are called than how they themselves are called
Besides, in our little corner of world, we usually denominate our glorious activity of sabre simply by the name of "fencing". Occasionally we might "do some foil" or "poke with epees" for the fun of diversity, though...
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02-13-2006, 08:17 AM
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[quote=FeatherBlade]Just to make things more complicated, I was wondering, which spelling would you people go for : sabRE or sabER
In working with the USFA a few months ago on the Pittsburgh NAC news release, I learned that the USFA is now using "saber," at least when dealing with non-fencers. | |
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02-13-2006, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Fencing Mom In working with the USFA a few months ago on the Pittsburgh NAC news release, I learned that the USFA is now using "saber," at least when dealing with non-fencers. |
despite the rest of the world using sabre? | 
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02-13-2006, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by downunder despite the rest of the world using sabre? | Probably because the rest of the world does it that way... | |
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02-13-2006, 01:23 PM
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| its america who cares how the rest of the world spells sabre
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02-13-2006, 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Tiwaz Can you get a feminine sabreur?  | Quote: |
Originally Posted by fencerontheline I say "saberist" for guys and "fatty" for the women.... | Sweet. I've been trying to convince my fencing friends for YEARS that I'm masculine and not skinny (well, okay, I'm somewhat slim, but I have body fat! I swear I do!). Now if I can just get people to stop calling me cute......
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