Real sword

[ReverseLunge]

Most people don't want to be attacked. Me? I want it. I would love to be attacked out in the street by some stranger.

[S. Hunter]

Originally Posted by ReverseLunge

Most people don't want to be attacked. Me? I want it. I would love to be attacked out in the street by some stranger.

Its not much of an attack if he stands back 20 feet with a rifle, liberating several of your internal organs and pints of blood from your body, while you fiddle with a pointy stick, is it?

[ReverseLunge]

I'm talking about hand to hand.

[KD5MDK]

Picking how our fights occur is a luxury we rarely get.

[ReverseLunge]

Originally Posted by KD5MDK

Picking how our fights occur is a luxury we rarely get.

Not if it is you who is picking the fight.

[VELISARIOS]

Originally Posted by ReverseLunge

Does anyone know if it is possible to put pistol grip on a real rapier blade?

It cannot be. The blade of rapier sword is too heavy for a pistol grip.

[pigeonmeister]

This conversation could only happen on an American forum. Why don't you all go and live in the mountains of Montana and form your own militia. The problem with Americans is that if they are scared or confused their instinct is to reach for a weapon. If America is trully the land of the free and the emdodiment of all things great about opportunity, fraternity and democracy, and if it's government insisits apon trying to export this utopioan American way of life/society- why do you all have to be armed to the teeth just to sleep at night?

[prototoast]

Originally Posted by telkanuru

So a gun protects you from a gun? Not to start a gun debate, but how many presidents have been shot while protected by the best armed guards in the history of the world?

Forget about how many times a President has been shot. Think about how many times a president hasn't.

[Sumo_Sniper]

Originally Posted by KD5MDK

Terrible idea.

1) You'll probably miss.
2) If you weren't in fear of your life, why did you shoot them? If you were, why did you inflict this devastating injury on the poor fellow. You've scarred the rest of his life. You'll pay for it.

The only proper target to ever shoot at a person is center mass. (snipers, body armor, and other specialist situations excepted)

1) Not true. Go to the range and get a feel for the gun you have, and you can easily hit a knee from a few meters.

2) And if you were in fear of your life, it is only natural that you stop him from killing you. I don't know about you, but if some lunatic is trying to attack me, I am not going to spend time or effort attempting to bring him down without causing injury. I know you should only ever aim for center of mass, but at that close range, providing they don't have a gun also, it is worth trying not to kill the offender. That is the only exception I make to my above rule. If I can do it without killing them I would. Kneecapping them won't kill them, but it will stop them from even doing such criminal acts again, unless they can afford knee reconstruction. Even then, I'm not sure they can fix it.

A compromise would only mean that he can either come back for you later, or, if he is a lunatic as we assume, that he might fight through it. After all, he is also fighting for his life.

[shlepzig]

This should be moved to the watercooler.

And people should grow up.

Shlep.

[Inquartata]

Why do I ever bother with RL? Even what seems at the outset to be a legitimate thread eventually spins into more of his usual trollish stupidity.

He's probably cackling to himself with glee by now.

No more feeding this one.

[S. Hunter]

Originally Posted by pigeonmeister

This conversation could only happen on an American forum. Why don't you all go and live in the mountains of Montana and form your own militia.

Looks like somebody is over stereotypical and has no real grasp of the way most Americans live or think. Starting your argument by proving your ignorance of this country isn't a good way to make friends. But then again, I doubt you came here for reasoned debate or discussion.

The problem with Americans is that if they are scared or confused their instinct is to reach for a weapon.

That is about as accurate as saying "The first instint of Europeans is to cry" or "The first instinct of Russians is to grab some Vodka". I don't know what it seems like to someone who is detached from mainstream america, but the only time I see something get shot around these parts, its either a deer or a piece of target paper. I'm not denying that we have crime, but, if we didn't have guns, the crime would still be here, and most of the criminals would still have guns.

If America is trully the land of the free and the emdodiment of all things great about opportunity, fraternity and democracy, and if it's government insisits apon trying to export this utopioan American way of life/society...

Again, broad generalizations wont make you too many friends. In the first place, no one, or no sane person, claims that we are the embodiment of opportunity, fraternity, and democracy. I could be vastly wrong about this, but almost everyone I've spoken to admits that we have flaws, but manage to do a pretty good job of running a country and helping other countries in the long term. You are also sadly mistaken if you believe that we, as a people, believe in the exporting of our form of government. In every modern instance where we have become engaged in extended conflict, public opinion turned against the war or occupation rapidly (Within 1-2 years). We, as a people, are very divided, and it is blatantly false to charactarize us as a nation bent on exporting our way of life, when we are obviously not doing so even in countries we have occupied.

why do you all have to be armed to the teeth just to sleep at night?

I know no one who is 'armed to the teeth'. I would love to know why having a hunting rifle, maybe a shotgun in less than 50% of all homes is armed to the teeth. If someone wants a gun for recreation or self defense, I dont see insanity in that.


I really hope that these opinions arent how the world views us, because anyone who has lived here for even a day would note that we really arent so bad. But its so much easier to look at a piece of paper and judge than actually seek the truth....

[ReverseLunge]

Originally Posted by Inquartata

Why do I ever bother with RL? Even what seems at the outset to be a legitimate thread eventually spins into more of his usual trollish stupidity.

He's probably cackling to himself with glee by now.

No more feeding this one.

That's not fair Inq and what right do you have to try to control free conversation here?

Originally Posted by Inquartata

3) A philosophical or moral opposition to guns is a poor reason to die. If you were a starving vegetarian and all that was available was some meat, would you choose death rather than practical necessity? Get a shotgun.

You are the one that turned this into a philosophical debate. I just wanted to know if I could fix a pistol grip to a real sword. So evey post afterwards has been feeding you not me.

[pigeonmeister]

Originally Posted by S. Hunter

Looks like somebody is over stereotypical and has no real grasp of the way most Americans live or think. Starting your argument by proving your ignorance of this country isn't a good way to make friends. But then again, I doubt you came here for reasoned debate or discussion.
..

Look I know I was making a mass generalisation, I know that not all Americans are as insane as you and your friends who like to use a sports forum to make childish, testosterone driven, posts about how to best convert an offensive weapon or shoot dead an assailant. I'm also sure that most Americans can sustain a better argument for gun ownership- what has hunting got to do with any part of this discussion?!!! For god sake we are talking about people joining in a discussion started by an individual who admits he wants to be attacked in order to gain the opportunity to kill someone with a sword, Of course I dont want to enter a reasoned debate with him or you!!!!!!! I stand by the fact that this thread would only happen on an American forum and therefore to some extent you are reinforcing my irrational stereotypes. By engaging with (and defending) this thread, started by someone who clearly enjoys violence, you are not making a reasoned case for an armed society being a safer society. You trying to give credibilty to a thread like this is just funny. Most people know America is a great place with amazing people, equally everyone knows it has an image problem in how it is perceived on many issues, including gun control. Don't join in a discussion like this (on a sports forum!) and tell me you don't understand why this is.

America is indeed a divided, diverse and huge nation. To the point where I doubt even you have a real grasp of the way most Americans live or think. I am obviously very sadly mistaken to believe that all Americans, as a people, believe in the exporting of the US form of government. Not so your government. Anyway this is not the time or the place, I am happy to discuss any of these issues (in a serious non generalised manner this time) in the Water Cooler if you care enough.

[achilleus]

Originally Posted by pigeonmeister

Look I know I was making a mass generalisation, I know that not all Americans are as insane as you and your friends who like to use a sports forum to make childish, testosterone driven, posts about how to best convert an offensive weapon or shoot dead an assailant. I'm also sure that most Americans can sustain a better argument for gun ownership- what has hunting got to do with any part of this discussion?!!! For god sake we are talking about people joining in a discussion started by an individual who admits he wants to be attacked in order to gain the opportunity to kill someone with a sword, Of course I dont want to enter a reasoned debate with him or you!!!!!!! I stand by the fact that this thread would only happen on an American forum and therefore to some extent you are reinforcing my irrational stereotypes. By engaging with (and defending) this thread, started by someone who clearly enjoys violence, you are not making a reasoned case for an armed society being a safer society. You trying to give credibilty to a thread like this is just funny. Most people know America is a great place with amazing people, equally everyone knows it has an image problem in how it is perceived on many issues, including gun control. Don't join in a discussion like this (on a sports forum!) and tell me you don't understand why this is.

America is indeed a divided, diverse and huge nation. To the point where I doubt even you have a real grasp of the way most Americans live or think. I am obviously very sadly mistaken to believe that all Americans, as a people, believe in the exporting of the US form of government. Not so your government. Anyway this is not the time or the place, I am happy to discuss any of these issues (in a serious non generalised manner this time) in the Water Cooler if you care enough.

You obviously don't know RL. This is his idea of humor. He posts some ridiculous statements, and let's people go off. He's actually laughing at you and your post. To be honest, so am I.

[ReverseLunge]

Originally Posted by pigeonmeister

I am obviously very sadly mistaken to believe that all Americans, as a people, believe in the exporting of the US form of government. Not so your government. Anyway this is not the time or the place, I am happy to discuss any of these issues (in a serious non generalised manner this time) in the Water Cooler if you care enough.

Who died and made you the manger of the water cooler?

[scrapinpeg]

Originally Posted by ReverseLunge

I just wanted to know if I could fix a pistol grip to a real sword.

Why not just take an existing pistol-grip epee, unscrew the tip, grind down the point to make it a bit sharper (doesn't have to be razor sharp, after all), and ta-dah!

[ReverseLunge]

Originally Posted by scrapinpeg

Why not just take an existing pistol-grip epee, unscrew the tip, grind down the point to make it a bit sharper (doesn't have to be razor sharp, after all), and ta-dah!

The problem with that is the blade would still be flexible and might bend instead of going through the bone.

[ThatReallyHurt]

Originally Posted by ReverseLunge

Not if it is you who is picking the fight.

So... should we be watching for you on the news or something?

[ReverseLunge]

Originally Posted by ThatReallyHurt

So... should we be watching for you on the news or something?

I've been on the news before.