Training

[arcon]

[ 10-23-2001: Message edited by: arcon ]

[arcon]

[ 10-23-2001: Message edited by: arcon ]

[Foil Girl]

I do about 1/2 an hour of footwork, take my half an hour lesson, do drills with a partner for a while, then fence. Outside of fencing I do weights. I've given up on cardiovascular for the time being because of my busy schedule. Plus, the drills my coach makes you do are very much of a workout. Along with the footwork, if you do it right.

[Inquartata]

I envy you people who get to do that much fencing! My work schedule precludes me from getting in any practice beyond four or five hours on Saturday. I lift three times a week and do cardio the other three, but there's no substitute for fencing ( physically or metaphysically )!

[Shadow Fencer]

I took the month of August off from fencing... gasp... I know..... how could I?....but starting next week, I'll fence two nights a week = 4 hours, swim laps 2x/week and walk 30 minutes a day during my lunch hour.

That my fencing reality along with work, home, sleep and studying!

[Bugaboo]

At this point in the season, it's almost entirely weight training and footwork drills. An hour and a half, three mornings a week.

I also play/bout at the salle three evenings a week, a couple hours each. Lessons in footwork and bladework won't be appropriate for another six weeks or so, once I've got the muscles to handle the strain so my body-memory doesn't learn the actions incorrectly.

Weekend play right now consists of indoor soccer games and related practice. It's a minor side interest and the season will only last for another few weeks, but it's a good mental break from nothing-but-fencing.

[saberkid]

hmm, well i dont train a whole lot, 2 hours a day... 5 days a week... but the training is EXTREAMLY hard; i never thought i would be able(in a 2 hours) to run 4 miles, (with glove and weapon) do 100 lung, adv. lung, jump lung, jump adv. lung...
do aprox 1000 push-ups 2000 sit-ups 500 V-ups, and other various footwork drills... thats only footwork.. we do weight lifting too sometimes, that includes 450 leg ups, bench press's of 60lb. (just with quick reps, I do 150 for low reps) one weight(i dont know what its called) where you pull wieght in with the side of your arms, i do that with 40lb. i do sets of 45 sit-ups with 35lb, then i do sets of 35 push-ups with 35lb, oh back to footwork, we do about 2 miles of different things with your legs, some of it might be on one leg, or both legs, or grapevines, or w/e... after all that, we go into fencing... this can include 45 minutes of VERY BORING cuts, fient cuts, and various other different technique drills, and then we MIGHT get some bouting in after it all... usaly we dont though, we do a moch turnament(a sort of test day) on fridays, and we have around 30, to 50 ppl in it...
fun eh?

Chris

[oiuyt]

Chris-
A few questions....
Could you give a sample practice in terms of how many sets of how many whatever you do in a typical order with approximate time requirements? Love to see how you fit all that into 2 hours....
Also, what's a v-up? Lying on your back and bending at the waist into a v?
When you use weights for push-ups/sit-ups how do you use them?
In the 2 miles of leg stuff could you be more specific about the stuff with 1 leg and the whatever? I get grapevines, I was just wondering what else you threw into this category.

Thx.
-B

[Bugaboo]

Originally posted by saberkid:
<STRONG>i never thought i would be able to run 4 miles with glove and weapon... </STRONG>

Why would you want to run four miles with a glove and weapon? Won't your opponent hold still? I wouldn't chase him, if I were you -- If he doesn't want to fence, you can't make him. And are you wearing anything other than a glove and weapon? If you're mostly dressed, then you're missing a mask and that's darn dangerous; if you're not dressed ... Well, running around nekkid with a sword is illegal in most places, even if you're wearing a glove. And after you're done running that distance, do you get to walk back or do you ride in a car? I imagine you'd probably want to rest a little on the way back to your training session, so a car is definitely the best choice. But that means you'll have to park the car ahead of time or have someone pick you up. What happens when it rains and you're running around with your glove and weapon? Are they protected from the weather?

My mind is in turmoil...

[veeco]

Let's see:

The world record for the 5000 meters is currently 12:39.36.
A mile is approximately 1600 meters. So when you run 4 miles, you run about 6400 meters.

Using a simple interpolation, I can say that if you were running like Haile Gebrselassie, you would run the 6400 meters in 16+ minutes.

I assume it's safe to say you don't run like him, for 2 reasons:
1- You have all these other exercises to do after.
2- You're doing it every day. Haile after his world record must have been pretty tired.

So I'll just say that you run about 25% slower than him, and that will make it a safe assumption. That would give about a 21 minutes run.

Then you say you do another 2 miles. That's a half of the previous distance. So you run in your practise for about 30 minutes. That leaves 1:30 minutes for your practise.

Of those 1:30 minutes, you use 45 minutes to do blade drills.
That leaves another 45 minutes for the other stuff which you describe as : "do 100 lunges, adv. lunge, jump lunge, jump adv. lunge...
do approx 1000 push-ups 2000 sit-ups 500 V-ups, and other various footwork drills... that's only footwork.. we do weight lifting too sometimes, that includes 450 leg ups, bench presses of 60lb. (just with quick reps, I do 150 for low reps) one weight (I don't know what it's called) where you pull weight in with the side of your arms, i do that with 40lb. i do sets of 45 sit-ups with 35lb, then i do sets of 35 push-ups with 35lb"
So let's see. There are 2700 seconds in 45 minutes. You do about 1000 pushups + 2000 situps + 500 V-Ups. That's 3500 movements. Add to that 450 leg ups, and we're teasing the 4000 mark. Even then, I have not counted the other weight exercise you do, since you don't say how much repetitions you do, and the push ups and sit ups with weights, since you don't say how many sets you do. Well, my dear Chris, in this case, largely overestimated to your advantage, you manage to do at least one weight exercise per 0.675 seconds.

Man, you are a true athlete. Next time I see you, I'll ask for an autograph :-)

[damianip]

I believe the sabrekid's "kid"ding.

Paolo

[DamedEscrime]

okay, this is my week (when I keep the schedule)

Mon & Wed its gym day...work the weight machines, free weights, stationary bike and swim if Im lucky and the pool isnt full of ladies doing water aerobics. Tues and Thurs...fencing drills and footwork and free bouting..Tues..private lesson....Fri free bouting...Sat..its stationary bike, weights and kickboxing. Sunday..rest.
If you want to know weight size, sets and reps pm me.(just kidding)
Oh and I count any local tournies as part of my training too.

[ 08-31-2001: Message edited by: DamedEscrime ]

[attila]

I don't train much. I spend my salle time either working on gear or coaching. I get about 2-3 encounters a week,showing up twice a week. Probably why I weigh 270. I get at as many tournaments as I can fit into my schedule because I have convinced myself that if I fence only tournament I will get used to fencing at that level. So I don't "play" much. I don't see it as helpful to my game. I figure I'm semi-retired and I just like to compete, so that's what I do.