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***Craig*** · 07-05-2005, 02:56 PM

Here's a video clip from the new Epee DVD available at the Fencing.Net Store.

The DVD is of the 2005 Challenge Monal. These couple of clips are from the start of the men's individual final between Robatch and Jeannet. The camera angles and commentary are representative of the entire DVD.

Link to:

Large Video Clip (approx 10MB)
Small Video Clip (Approx 5MB)

Craig

telkanuru · 07-05-2005, 03:08 PM

Awsome! Now I just need money so I can get the actual DVD...

***Craig*** · 07-05-2005, 03:16 PM

When I compare the latest round of DVDs (this one and the Paris Men's Foil DVD) to the first set (2003 World Championships), I am amazed at how far they have come.

The guys and FencingPictures have really put a lot into getting the production right and I want to continue to support them to keep bringing high quality productions to the sport.

It also helps keep the FIE a bit more hands off as they are comfortable with the image of fencing that these DVDs portray and are therefore easier to work with on these and future projects.

As fencing in the US continues to grow, the increased volume of sales will allow us to keep the production quality high while pushing the costs down.

Thanks for the feedback.

Craig

telkanuru · 07-05-2005, 03:29 PM

As a side note, I was somewhat amused by the spotlight/strobe fencer enterances.

***Craig*** · 07-05-2005, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by telkanuru

As a side note, I was somewhat amused by the spotlight/strobe fencer enterances.

The french like that. They did that for the Paris (foil) finals as well.

whtouche · 07-05-2005, 06:41 PM

Is there an option to turn off the commentary?
I'm sure the commentary is fun and useful to some, but to me and others I would bet, it gets in the way of being able to concentrate on and hear the blade actions.
That's part of what I liked so much about the bonn 2003 sabre world cup video. Clear sound, and no overlaid commentary to distract from the goings on.

jBirch · 07-05-2005, 06:50 PM

Holy cow, that's AWESOME!

James.

glowstix · 07-05-2005, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by whtouche

Is there an option to turn off the commentary?
I'm sure the commentary is fun and useful to some, but to me and others I would bet, it gets in the way of being able to concentrate on and hear the blade actions.

i would agree with this...

Quote:

Originally Posted by telkanuru

Awsome! Now I just need money so I can get the actual DVD...

i would agree with this too...

jBirch · 07-05-2005, 07:43 PM

BTW, how long is the DVD?

James.

***Craig*** · 07-05-2005, 10:59 PM

The individual final is about 17 minutes, team final 55 minutes then another 12-15 minutes for the semifinal bout on there and another 20 minutes for the partial team semifinal match.

That's about 2 hours of fencing, plus about 20 minutes of interviews (in English and French)

There is no option for turning off the commentary, but with the slow motion replays you get a very good look at the blade actions.

Craig

Feltan · 07-06-2005, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Craig

...It also helps keep the FIE a bit more hands off as they are comfortable with the image of fencing that these DVDs portray and are therefore easier to work with on these and future projects...

Would you care to provide a bit more information here? Does the FIE get "hands on" with international events, or with national ones too? What makes them comfortable or uncomfortable with the images?

Regards,
Feltan

glowstix · 07-06-2005, 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Craig

The individual final is about 17 minutes, team final 55 minutes then another 12-15 minutes for the semifinal bout on there and another 20 minutes for the partial team semifinal match.

That's about 2 hours of fencing, plus about 20 minutes of interviews (in English and French)

i'm ssooo wweeaakkk...i ordered it. i couldn't resist..aaahhhhhgggghhhh

what am i going to do with my life!???

counterattack · 07-06-2005, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by glowstix

i'm ssooo wweeaakkk...i ordered it. i couldn't resist..aaahhhhhgggghhhh

what am i going to do with my life!???

Same here. Everybody is gone to Sacramento except me. The club is empty. The other clubs are closed. I consoled myself by buying the DVD. But even the DVD will be delayed until after Summer Nationals. Woe is me.

glowstix · 07-06-2005, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by counterattack

But even the DVD will be delayed until after Summer Nationals. Woe is me.

actually i got an email that said it was shipped...don't know if it was automated or what..

Gav · 07-07-2005, 03:30 AM

Can I just say how impressed I was with that clip.
Who were the commentators?
The quality looks very good - was it recorded by a professional crew?
I liked the overlay of the scores and it looks professional. Has someone been reading these boards and taken note of our comments? I'll order it when I get some cash.

Why did the american commentator keep calling Jeanet 'Jenn-ett'?

glowstix · 07-08-2005, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Craig

When I compare the latest round of DVDs (this one and the Paris Men's Foil DVD) to the first set (2003 World Championships), I am amazed at how far they have come.

The guys and FencingPictures have really put a lot into getting the production right and I want to continue to support them to keep bringing high quality productions to the sport.

It also helps keep the FIE a bit more hands off as they are comfortable with the image of fencing that these DVDs portray and are therefore easier to work with on these and future projects.

As fencing in the US continues to grow, the increased volume of sales will allow us to keep the production quality high while pushing the costs down.

Thanks for the feedback.

Craig

just got the dvd in the mail (great job on the shipping!!

). watched it. nice job..i can only speak for myself but the 3 most important things for me:
1. view of the action was good for the most part
2. the more footage the better(the fact that one of the semifinal bouts as well as at least partial footage of the team semi final bouts was included was good)
3. actually not crashing the computer!!

under these conditions, i have no problem paying $25-$30..

CMA · 07-08-2005, 06:14 PM

have any one u seen the cip foil if so tell me what u thought. form what ihear it is also of excellent quality. how was the commentating during the whole thing for the epee and did it seem like a great atmosphere to fenceer and spectators.

counterattack · 07-11-2005, 08:31 PM

I got mine. It was good. One of the commentators was making a little bitt too much about "the crowd" and how if the crowd would just get into it they might push the French fencers on to victory. And the previously mentioned Jeanet='Jenn-ett' issue. Oh well. And unless you speak French much of the bonus footage is of no use, since the interviews with the French fencers aren't translated. But the Germans gave their interviews in English and they were fun to watch.

The quality of the filming and production was very good. It exceeded my expectations. The quality of fencing... Robastch just didn't look good. He looked exhausted. He was stumbling on his fleches. There was some good fencing in the France vs. Germany team finals. Again, the commentary was a little weird. France was down by one touch with two bouts left to go, and the commentary ran something like: "Wow, time is running low, France really needs to get it going here and see if they can't get the score closer". They were down by one touch. With 6 minutes of fencing left. Anyway. The commentary seemed to be geared towards an audience with little exposure to fencing. I think that is a mistake, since honestly no one but fencers will watch this.

Gulliermo? (maybe), the third guy, seemed to have real knowledge of what was going on, but he made only occaisional statements.

Anyway. As an lefty epeeist it was very interesting to watch the team bout between France and Germany and watch the way the French worked distance with the French grips and lefty fencers vs. the tall Germans (Strigel is very tall) with their pistol grips. They did a great job, with the notable exception of Janvier who had one match up he just couldn't figure out the distance on. It almost makes me want to try out the French grip again.

glowstix · 07-11-2005, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by counterattack

Anyway. As an lefty epeeist it was very interesting to watch the team bout between France and Germany and watch the way the French worked distance with the French grips and lefty fencers vs. the tall Germans (Strigel is very tall) with their pistol grips. They did a great job, with the notable exception of Janvier who had one match up he just couldn't figure out the distance on. It almost makes me want to try out the French grip again.

oddly enough, it seems that jerome jeannet went the other direction. in the lisbon dvd from 2004 he had a french grip. now in this dvd he's using a pistol grip..

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the team final bout was awesome. btw, strigel looks 10ft tall!! he fenced a great bout against janvier; blade actions were tight and he got a few good hits with simple actions to the upper arm..seems like janvier lost confidence half way through...luckily jeannet pulled it off in the end.

fencingguy · 07-11-2005, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by glowstix

oddly enough, it seems that jerome jeannet went the other direction. in the lisbon dvd from 2004 he had a french grip. now in this dvd he's using a pistol grip..

..

the team final bout was awesome. btw, strigel looks 10ft tall!! he fenced a great bout against janvier; blade actions were tight and he got a few good hits with simple actions to the upper arm..seems like janvier lost confidence half way through...luckily jeannet pulled it off in the end.

There are two Jeannets. Fabrice is the world champion who uses a french grip. Jerome is the less successful brother who only wins little world cups like Paris and uses a pistol

. Oh to be the unsuccessful brother...

In regards to the video, the commentary was very annoying, and is definitely geared towards a nonfencing audience, as is the editing and different angles. This makes me think of watching an NFL game on TV vs the actual coaching footage. While this is cool to watch, I'd much rather have a constant shot from the side so I can see what distance the fencers are keeping and have a better idea of how they're setting things up.

BTW, Robatsch was exhausted. He looked done in his bout to make the 4. Jan actually predicted he wouldn't even make it into the 4, let alone the gold.