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TheArmourer · 07-05-2005, 09:51 AM

Yes I know I should know this off the top of my head and could easily look it up but ....
What are the scoring box requirements for Epee and Sabre?

I'm assumiong its something like:
1 - There's no such thing as an Off Target Light.
2 - The only thing that stops an On Target light coming on is a previous On Target hit from the opponent, something like 300ms before.
3 - Hits on the guard don't register at all.

... and that's it?

keith · 07-05-2005, 10:45 AM

You missed the whipover cut out in sabre

DHCJr · 07-05-2005, 11:06 AM

You're absolutely right, you could look it up. I could also look it up and write the pages and pages of information, but if I put down less than the full rules, you wouldn't get the full answer. I am just too lazy to type that much.

The answers are in just 2 places all together. m.44 - m.54 and ANNEXE B TO THE MATERIAL RULES.

Rather me doing that, why don't you use the website http://www.leonpaul.com/download/rul...update2004.htm

Use the search function above and use m.44 and then ANNEXE B TO THE MATERIAL RULES and read.

TheArmourer · 07-05-2005, 12:09 PM

Cheers Don

You could just have said "read the f****** rules you lazy git"

DHCJr · 07-05-2005, 12:28 PM

That wouldn't be me. Also, giving that as the answer would not be helpful. For example, if I needed the answer to what is the definition of a parry, I could read the rules, but where in the rules. It would have to be in T somewhere, because that is one section of the rules, I don't know. If someone were to give me the exact rule #, that would help.

As you can see, it gets complicated, such as for a certain resistence, it should do this, but a difference resistence it should do something else.

TheArmourer · 07-05-2005, 12:57 PM

Fair point

It's just that I'm up to my eyes in debugging assembly code for a (almost FIE freeware) foil box and wanted a short cut for epee and sabre as I'm toying with the idea of making it a 3 weapon box ... if I can be bothered to get my copy of the rules out

Eduardo · 07-05-2005, 04:09 PM

Hi TheArmourer,

This is quite interesting what you're planning to do. I created a topic about that a few weeks ago discussing how to build a scoring box. Maybe you can share the details with us?

TheArmourer · 07-06-2005, 05:10 AM

Eduardo
Similar discussions have been doing the rounds for years and "has anyone got a circuit diagram for a scoring box" is a very common question, with few definitive answers.
I got bored, and this is where my interest has started (... along with a bit of "power to the people").

Now don't hold your breath on this but ...
The intention is for a eeprom based circuit that can be built on veorboard / strip board and the design, code, instructions will be freely available to anyone from my website.

Initially the project was based on descrete logic devices but whilst the "logic" should have worked, it got to the point where there were it was going to be a complete 'mare to build and debug.

So I've now turned my attention to a programable device.
It's reduced the component count dramatically (probably only a couple of chips, a hand full of resistors, transistors, switches and bulbs). I'm hoping that the cost of the electronics will be less than the cost of a good robust case to put them in.
It will also require a "programing board" (again only a couple of £/$ to build) a PC serial cable and some readily available freeware to get the code onto the chip.

Here's the catch ...
Whilst it's taken me 2 or 3 months to get to where I am now (debugging the foil code)(I think epee and sabre should be a lot easier) I've been known to get a long way through a project and then find it gathers dust for a couple of years.
However, I'm hoping the project will come to fruition pretty soon.

Eduardo · 07-07-2005, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by TheArmourer

Eduardo
Similar discussions have been doing the rounds for years and "has anyone got a circuit diagram for a scoring box" is a very common question, with few definitive answers.
I got bored, and this is where my interest has started (... along with a bit of "power to the people").

Hi there

I didn't mean that I was being original when I suggested building a box from scratch :-)

Besides I have no background in electrics or electronics to help you, but my points were:

1- it should be cheaper than what's in the market today
2- it should be easy to build (assuming that the person buys the right parts and knows how to weld them together)
3- it should be programmable (is it a microcontroller? an eprom? I don't know the name)
4- the program should be freely available

Of course since they are home-built they can not be FIE approved, but they should follow the FIE guidelines, at least about the timing.

that's just what I think...

TheArmourer · 07-08-2005, 09:14 AM

1 - Yes
2 - Yes
3 - Yes
4 - Yes
FIE - That's the plan.
They may not run 12v and they may not comply exactly with FIE rules on resistance tollerances, but providing all the external components (ground wire, spool, bodywire, weapon and lame) are all in reasonable good condition, the plan is you shouldn't be able to tell the difference in use.