Stay Low?

**ScorpionDevil** · 04-28-2002 07:53 PM

I realized that most fencers are taller or about the same height as me. During my tournment yesterday, one of my opponent, who've been fencing for a couple years, complained that I was staying so low (almost like i was sitting down, my knee almost touched the floor), so she couldn't hit a thing. One other thing that I did all the time was to duck down and do something like a stop thurst as a counter attack.
I am going to have another tournment in 2 weeks. So should I stick with staying low all the time? Also, I dont feel as tired when I stay low all the time.

**Fencing Angel** · 04-28-2002 10:19 PM

depends..... if you mean staying low as in counter-attacking or whatever.. No.. fence fence fence.. your on a 14 meter strip.. USE IT!..

starting to sound like a coach?

sorry..

well how tall are you?? and define "low" a bit more..

**angrylemur** · 05-01-2002 03:47 PM

I wouldn't recommend staying that low all the time because it leaves you open for flicks and makes you a lot less mobile. The only case in which I go below parallel is an action where I need one light (counter attack, or in some cases a riposte with a poor judge).

**D'Artagnan1673** · 05-01-2002 06:47 PM

If you stay low all the time, your strategy will be very predictable. Moderation in all things.

Your go down and stop thrust, depending upon how it is done, is called a Passata Sotto. Its a very spectacular Italian move in which your back leg goes back, your body goes down low with your off hand on the floor and your hand in pronation. It shouldn't be used often since its great advantage is the element of surprise. I had a guy passata sotto me at my last tournamet; I speared myself on his blade.

It · 05-01-2002 09:42 PM

When you fence more advanced people you'll find that they'll use your back as a target if you keep low. Espicailly the middle of your spine!

**ScorpionDevil** · 05-01-2002 09:56 PM

Ouch... <img src="graemlins/fett.gif" border="0" alt="[The Fett]" />

**KShan5[PrFC]** · 05-02-2002 01:29 PM

That's true, earlier on I would fence lower. I would work sometimes, but it has an affect in your lunges. Your back will be expossed more becasue you end up leaning forward. Lemme tell ya, you will be soon to drop the habbit.

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	Register Help Remember Me? Forum Fencing Lists and Archives Discussion Archive Stay Low? Results 1 to 8 of 8 Thread: Stay Low? Thread Tools Show Printable Version Email this Page… Subscribe to this Thread… Display Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode 04-28-2002 07:53 PM #1 ScorpionDevil Member Array Join Date Mar 2002 Location San Francisco, CA Posts 64 Stay Low? I realized that most fencers are taller or about the same height as me. During my tournment yesterday, one of my opponent, who've been fencing for a couple years, complained that I was staying so low (almost like i was sitting down, my knee almost touched the floor), so she couldn't hit a thing. One other thing that I did all the time was to duck down and do something like a stop thurst as a counter attack. I am going to have another tournment in 2 weeks. So should I stick with staying low all the time? Also, I dont feel as tired when I stay low all the time. <img src="graemlins/evil3.gif" border="0" alt="[Evil 2]" /> <img src="graemlins/evild.gif" border="0" alt="[Evil]" /> !@#$% Evil Devil fencer %$#@! 04-28-2002 10:19 PM #2 Fencing Angel Senior Member Array Join Date Mar 2001 Location North Bend, Washington, USA Posts 400 depends..... if you mean staying low as in counter-attacking or whatever.. No.. fence fence fence.. your on a 14 meter strip.. USE IT!.. starting to sound like a coach? sorry.. well how tall are you?? and define "low" a bit more.. 05-01-2002 03:47 PM #3 angrylemur Member Array Join Date Aug 2001 Posts 84 I wouldn't recommend staying that low all the time because it leaves you open for flicks and makes you a lot less mobile. The only case in which I go below parallel is an action where I need one light (counter attack, or in some cases a riposte with a poor judge). 05-01-2002 06:47 PM #4 D'Artagnan1673 Senior Member Array Join Date Mar 2002 Location Gulf Coast Division Posts 2,422 If you stay low all the time, your strategy will be very predictable. Moderation in all things. Your go down and stop thrust, depending upon how it is done, is called a Passata Sotto. Its a very spectacular Italian move in which your back leg goes back, your body goes down low with your off hand on the floor and your hand in pronation. It shouldn't be used often since its great advantage is the element of surprise. I had a guy passata sotto me at my last tournamet; I speared myself on his blade. ... without remorse for the past, confident in the present, and full of hope for the future, [d'artagnan] went to bed and slept the sleep of the brave. - The Three Musketeers 05-01-2002 09:42 PM #5 It Senior Member Array Join Date Feb 2002 Location Where it's 72 degrees year round most of the time Posts 160 When you fence more advanced people you'll find that they'll use your back as a target if you keep low. Espicailly the middle of your spine! 05-01-2002 09:56 PM #6 ScorpionDevil Member Array Join Date Mar 2002 Location San Francisco, CA Posts 64 Ouch... <img src="graemlins/fett.gif" border="0" alt="[The Fett]" /> !@#$% Evil Devil fencer %$#@! 05-02-2002 01:29 PM #7 KShan5[PrFC] Senior Member Array Join Date Apr 2002 Location Massachusetts Posts 3,051 That's true, earlier on I would fence lower. I would work sometimes, but it has an affect in your lunges. Your back will be expossed more becasue you end up leaning forward. Lemme tell ya, you will be soon to drop the habbit. -Kevin 05-02-2002 05:29 PM #8 135711 Quit (no longer with us) Array Join Date Apr 2002 Location usa Posts 1,307 [ 05-04-2002: Message edited by: 135711 ]</p> « Previous Thread \| Next Thread » Similar Threads Impressions of the USFA By Slavheart in forum Fencing Discussion Replies: 89 Last Post: 12-30-2002, 06:40 PM Posting Permissions You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts BB code is On Smilies are On [IMG] code is On HTML code is Off Trackbacks are On Pingbacks are On Refbacks are On Forum Rules Contact Us Fencing.Net Archive Top All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:25 AM. Powered by vBulletin® Version 4.1.9 Copyright © 2012 vBulletin Solutions, Inc. All rights reserved. Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 (c) 1995 - 2010 Fencing Net; Fencing.Net, fdn, Fencing101, Epee101, Foil101, Sabre101 are all trademarks of Fencing.Net, LLC. Thank you to Replica Sword Shop for their support.