06-21-2005, 02:32 PM
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| Curmudgeon Award
I'm thinking of starting an annual Curmudgeon Award to the grumpiest, rudest, meanest fencing coach in the world. I am now taking nominations for this award in this thread. Once nominations are closed, a poll will be created to determine the winner. An award will be sent to the winner. Inscription still yet to be determined.
Nominations now open.
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06-21-2005, 02:43 PM
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| No contest. It would have to be Arkady Burdan  | |
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06-21-2005, 03:22 PM
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| Valdek Czaja would get my nod. At least the russian has become picky about the events he attends. Valdek goes to all the national events. JOs, Cleveland I think, he snatched the black card he was given by the ref and zinged it across the room.
Don't get me wrong, he is a good coach but at the tournament can be very direct and trying on the ref. | |
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06-21-2005, 03:45 PM
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| Waldek would get my choice too.
I blackcarded him once for walking up, turning off the scoring machine, and screaming at me in Polish. Then he grabbed himself and offered me the opportunity to perform a sexual act.
Definitely gets my vote for most obnoxious coach. | |
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06-21-2005, 04:28 PM
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| I thought Mel North won that title for life. Or I must have read it wrong, I thought the coach most likely to lie or cheat.
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06-21-2005, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by oso97 Waldek would get my choice too.
I blackcarded him once for walking up, turning off the scoring machine, and screaming at me in Polish. Then he grabbed himself and offered me the opportunity to perform a sexual act.
Definitely gets my vote for most obnoxious coach. | Who is this Valdek person? I've never met this person in all my refereeing life.
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06-21-2005, 06:03 PM
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| If anyone has ever crossed Mel Norths path then they would know he is the biggest jerk in the fencing world. He has burned more bridges than anyone I know. He has been run out of Colorado, California, Canada and now resides in Las Vegas. I pity the fools who have to put up with him. | |
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06-21-2005, 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by lovetofence If anyone has ever crossed Mel Norths path then they would know he is the biggest jerk in the fencing world. He has burned more bridges than anyone I know. He has been run out of Colorado, California, Canada and now resides in Las Vegas. I pity the fools who have to put up with him. | No, come on. Tell us what you really think  | |
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06-21-2005, 06:15 PM
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| Believe it or not, I've actually fenced one of his students.
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06-21-2005, 06:20 PM
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| Waldek is my coach, and I have heard all the stories but in 3 years of fencing with him I have never seen anything like the storys described. Maybe he was wilder in his youth, but he was well behaved at the last nationals, and the Chattanooga NAC and at 3 RYC's and an SYC this year.
I do know a bit about oso97's story. Though honestly all my information comes from a GTFC fencer who was there and not from Waldek, and the story was a bit less dramatic when I heard it, but oso97 was definitly justified in giving the black card. I have never heard him speak ill of anyone or gossip about incedents that may have happened.
I think this thread has the real potential to turn into a fencingsuck type flame war, which probably will not be the most informative fencing related conversation. | |
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06-21-2005, 08:04 PM
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| Well, he may not be the rudest overall, but I've seen Mitch Berliner go up to the bout committee at the Charlotte nationals and call them a bunch of "[expletive deleted]".
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06-21-2005, 08:42 PM
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| I see no good coming from this, but possibly a few red cards in people's future...
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06-21-2005, 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Beeblebrox No contest. It would have to be Arkady Burdan | Well, we fence with him for the fourth year and don't even dream of leaving. You have to know him to realize he is not rude, it is just that fencing is his WHOLE life, hence his passion. | |
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06-21-2005, 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by DHCJr I thought Mel North won that title for life. Or I must have read it wrong, I thought the coach most likely to lie or cheat. | Curmudgeon Emeritus??? | |
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06-21-2005, 11:10 PM
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| Weird...I didn't bother censoring it because I just kinda figured the auto-censor would take care of it. You can't say ***(three letter word for butt), but you can say that?
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06-21-2005, 11:12 PM
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| haha now mitch berliner is the section chair in the north east. that will go over well.
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06-21-2005, 11:14 PM
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| I thought Brad was still the chair? Anyway...yeah, that should be an interesting experience. Mitch has this talent for rubbing everybody the wrong way at will.
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06-21-2005, 11:26 PM
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| Which One?
Do yah want any coach or just high level refs like nationals and up? | |
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06-22-2005, 12:22 AM
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| This is not exactly what I had in mind. I was thinking more of a good natured roasting. Obviously, not well thought out. | |
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06-22-2005, 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Bayou Bum This is not exactly what I had in mind. I was thinking more of a good natured roasting. Obviously, not well thought out. Quote: |
I'm thinking of starting an annual Curmudgeon Award to the grumpiest, rudest, meanest fencing coach in the world.
| | That is what you call good-natured? What adjectives would you use to describe an outright attack? | |
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