05-03-2005, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by whtouche I will admit some culpability for this, screwing up my pool and taking out 2 guys who should have finished higher than they did.
But they would have fenced each other anyways, which still doesnt seem overly right. | You were seeded too low coming out of pools. But so was Alan Cadet. Don't know who his second loss in the pool was to, but it shouldn't have happened. Jeremy as the 6 seed isn't unreasonable, so he did his job correctly. Quote: |
Originally Posted by whtouche Ok, so I have a question: When I checked in, I corrected my rating(was C04 when I registered, subsequently earned B05). However they apparantly didn't fix it as I was listed as C04 on the pool sheet and now on the results it has me down as re-earning my C, to C05.
Im wondering if I should tell someone, so that they don't send it into the national office and something gets screwed up? | Won't affect anything, so don't worry about it. Quote: |
Originally Posted by blakea1973 Why not post the HTML files from Engarde for pools and tableauxs thereby bypassing any problems with access? | Would if I had them. Talk to Tom and suggest it. He's who has sole access to the results files, the computers that were used at the event, and the website (both CFC and NAS-USFA) currently.
-B :)
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05-03-2005, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by whtouche I will admit some culpability for this, screwing up my pool and taking out 2 guys who should have finished higher than they did.
But they would have fenced each other anyways, which still doesnt seem overly right. | This is nothing to feel bad about. You earned your victories and if other people didn't make the final or finish "where they should have" thats their problem not yours.
I don't know how many times I've had a bad pool only to decide it was time to make someone cry in the DE. (I'm not a nice person at tournaments  ). It is their responsibility to overcome any bad seed they have. You only have to worry about yourself. If either of those guys was supposed to finish higher, they would have beaten you. | |
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05-03-2005, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by fencingguy (I'm not a nice person at tournaments ). |
You're really not.....what was with kneeing your opponent in the stomach in the bronze bout....and then hitting him after a halt multiple times???? Really unsportsmanlike and just plain mean spirited...... | |
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05-03-2005, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ Apostrophe Seems like best place of any to post it...
attached are current (as in post sectionals) standings of the north atlantic sectional circuit...
they aren't 'official' as I did them, and not Brad... but that said... they should be right.
-w | Considered posting them on FRED?
So ya'll use Sectionals as part of your Section Circuit? Interesting. We don't, as there are people in our Section who fence and do well in the circuit, but aren't eligible to compete at Sectionals. | |
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05-03-2005, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by KShan5[PrFC] You're really not.....what was with kneeing your opponent in the stomach in the bronze bout....and then hitting him after a halt multiple times???? Really unsportsmanlike and just plain mean spirited...... | He deserved it  | |
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05-03-2005, 04:36 PM
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| you were just jealous because you didn't have sexy yellow and green socks on... though those cartel whites were pretty hot.
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05-04-2005, 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by oso97 Considered posting them on FRED?
So ya'll use Sectionals as part of your Section Circuit? Interesting. We don't, as there are people in our Section who fence and do well in the circuit, but aren't eligible to compete at Sectionals. | Considered it. Main problem is that almost no one from our area is on Fred already, so entering results would mean a LOT of extra work, at least for the first couple of seasons. Fred just isn't used in the Northeast.
As to using sectionals, and people that can't fence sectionals. Oh well, I'm okay with that. Worst case, we take the top 4 of 6 results. Given that sectionals is probably the second hardest event of the 6, having some small fraction of the people not be eligible for it isn't much of a loss.
-B :)
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05-04-2005, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by oiuyt As to using sectionals, and people that can't fence sectionals. Oh well, I'm okay with that. Worst case, we take the top 4 of 6 results. Given that sectionals is probably the second hardest event of the 6, having some small fraction of the people not be eligible for it isn't much of a loss.
-B | If part of the aim of the circuit is to help pull in the most fencers it is not that useful to have a closed event on the circuit. Probably has more of an effect on the Milbury and Granite state opens, and it may not matter much in the grand scheme. I know its one reason I haven't spent my time running of to comps on the circuit (that and I'm lazy of course).
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05-04-2005, 11:41 AM
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| Being barred from one event in a circuit that drops the lowest two results isn't particularly significant. And it's easily one of the best competitions around and helps the overall strength of the circuit. If attending all six events were the only way to be competitive, then, yes, I would see it as a problem. As is, not so much.
That said, this is the first year of existance for the circuit. I expect changes to be made over time if feedback from area fencers indicates that such are needed or desireable. So please continue to let me know what you think and what improvements you would like to see in future years.
Likewise, if you're involved with an area division that doesn't yet have an event in the circuit, but have something that you think would fit well, please let me know about that as well.
-B :)
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05-04-2005, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by oiuyt Gulman beat Bente (12 and 13 seeds, not sure which was which) in the 8. Don't remember who the 4/5 seeds were (the L16 upsets), but it wouldn't surprise me if Justin had been in one of those positions. | Gulman beat Justin. Bente beat Tom Abend.
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05-04-2005, 02:50 PM
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| Ouit,
We used to include Sectionals as part of our Circuit and then stopped doing so about 4 years ago. We simply found that it helped with the "appearance of equality" issue. If you have any questions about the trials and tribulations we've gone through, pm me and we can chat. | |
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05-04-2005, 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by epeemike81 Gulman beat Justin. Bente beat Tom Abend.
-m | I don't think he's disagreeing, I think he means gulman beat bente to get into the 4
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05-04-2005, 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by whtouche I don't think he's disagreeing, I think he means gulman beat bente to get into the 4 | I don't think HE'S disagreeing, I think he's adding the information that I mentioned not knowing (the L16 bouts).
-B :)
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05-04-2005, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by oiuyt I don't think HE'S disagreeing, I think he's adding the information that I mentioned not knowing (the L16 bouts).
-B | Touche.....
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05-05-2005, 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by oiuyt I don't think HE'S disagreeing, I think he's adding the information that I mentioned not knowing (the L16 bouts).
-B | y'know what?
i don't think anyone disagreeing.
except me.
i disagree on principle.
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