Fencing Photos

[Jonathan Jefferies]

Here is a link to some interesting photos (foil and epee)
taken in the S.F. Bay area. Photographer was experimenting with
having the shutter connected to the scoring machine
and the results are right interesting. The warmer colored
photos are from Pacific Fencing Club with one shot
of Harold Hayes watching some action (the only photo without
the fencer being masked).
The more metallic machine toned photos (predominantly
of epee) I believe were taken down at EMFC at a tournament.
The ambient lighting obviously deterring the coloration.

http://www.flickershutter.com/Gallery/index.htm

Note that there are three pages of photos with arrows
to move between and clicking on a photo downloads the
full photo. Some of the actions are quite remarkable.
I recognize Phil Gerring of GGFC and Dick King from
Stanford as well as Julian Sauviang (sp??) from Cal Berkeley
(fencer down absolutely low with a parry fourth hit jpg 045,
typical of Julian) in the epee shots. Sneaky begger, stands
there like he isn't going to move and then pulls a super
long lunge like the one shown to hit with a bind in 4th.
If he doesn't get you on the initial attack goes into in-
fighting in 4th remise.

There are also some other photos also on the site but without
as much action.

Jonathan

[Ole-Morten Duesund]

On 2005-04-30, Jonathan Jefferies <jonathanjefferies@alamedanet.net> wrote:
> Here is a link to some interesting photos (foil and epee)
> taken in the S.F. Bay area. Photographer was experimenting with
> having the shutter connected to the scoring machine
> and the results are right interesting. The warmer colored
> photos are from Pacific Fencing Club with one shot
> of Harold Hayes watching some action (the only photo without
> the fencer being masked).
> The more metallic machine toned photos (predominantly
> of epee) I believe were taken down at EMFC at a tournament.
> The ambient lighting obviously deterring the coloration.
>
> http://www.flickershutter.com/Gallery/index.htm

Very nice photos, and I want a place like this
http://www.flickershutter.com/Gallery/pages/019.htm :-)

Do you know how exactly the photographer connected the camera
and the scoring machine? I see lots of nice possibilities.

--
Ole-Morten Duesund

[John Hasler]

Ole-Morten Duesund writes:
> Do you know how exactly the photographer connected the camera and the
> scoring machine? I see lots of nice possibilities.

It's against the rules to actually connect anything to the box. Back in
the late seventies I built a gadget that "watched" the lights with
photocells on flexible stalks and sent a signal to a camera at the far end
of a cable.
--
John Hasler
john@dhh.gt.org
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI USA

[Ole-Morten Duesund]

On 2005-05-03, John Hasler <john@dhh.gt.org> wrote:
> Ole-Morten Duesund writes:
>> Do you know how exactly the photographer connected the camera and the
>> scoring machine? I see lots of nice possibilities.
>
> It's against the rules to actually connect anything to the box. Back in
> the late seventies I built a gadget that "watched" the lights with
> photocells on flexible stalks and sent a signal to a camera at the far end
> of a cable.

For competition I can see the problem with connectin anything to the
box, but for practice and/or demonstration purposes it shouldn't be a
problem - now I'll just have to pick apart one of the club's boxes :-)

But the photocell solution would be nice as well, not to mention usable
during competitions...

--
Ole-Morten Duesund

[Wolf]

>>> Do you know how exactly the photographer connected the camera and the
>>> scoring machine? I see lots of nice possibilities.
>>
>> It's against the rules to actually connect anything to the box. Back in
>> the late seventies I built a gadget that "watched" the lights with
>> photocells on flexible stalks and sent a signal to a camera at the far
>> end
>> of a cable.
>
> For competition I can see the problem with connectin anything to the
> box, but for practice and/or demonstration purposes it shouldn't be a
> problem - now I'll just have to pick apart one of the club's boxes :-)
>
> But the photocell solution would be nice as well, not to mention usable
> during competitions...
>
> --
> Ole-Morten Duesund

Wouldn't it be easier to have something sitting between the floor cord and
the box, and having it watch for a voltage/current spike? It's not like it
matters whether it was a colored light or not, you can dump those
afterwards.

-Bill

[John Hasler]

I wrote:
> It's against the rules to actually connect anything to the box. Back in
> the late seventies I built a gadget that "watched" the lights with
> photocells on flexible stalks and sent a signal to a camera at the far
> end of a cable.

Wolf writes:
> Wouldn't it be easier to have something sitting between the floor cord
> and the box, and having it watch for a voltage/current spike? It's not
> like it matters whether it was a colored light or not, you can dump those

Not enough easier to matter: the photocell gadget was trivial (it sat on
the table and watched the lights on the box).
--
John Hasler
john@dhh.gt.org
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI USA

[Jonathan Jefferies]

Ole-Morten Duesund wrote:

>
> Do you know how exactly the photographer connected the camera
> and the scoring machine? I see lots of nice possibilities.
>
Not Actually. I saw him doing the photography at Pacific Fencing Club
but I didn't investigate the mechanism. Given the delay time between
hit and lights (which can be considerable) he must pick it off early.
Perhaps you could try emailing flickershutter and asking them. Haven't
heard any gossip about their trying to make it into a product
so if it's just one guy's technique he might be willing to share.
I'll ask tonight when I go down for entertainment. Wednesday is the
day that I don't fence so my body can recuperate. So I go down and
watch the foilists.

Jonathan

[Jonathan Jefferies]

John Hasler wrote:
>
> It's against the rules to actually connect anything to the box. Back in
> the late seventies I built a gadget that "watched" the lights with
> photocells on flexible stalks and sent a signal to a camera at the far end
> of a cable.

John,
Where is this covered in the rules?? I don't remember anything
addressing this issue and would like to review that.

thanks
Jonathan Jefferies

[Sarah Morgan]

Jonathan Jefferies wrote:

> Here is a link to some interesting photos (foil and epee)
> taken in the S.F. Bay area.

> Jonathan

More fencing photos can be found @ http://www.martinjgreen.me.uk/gallery - a
lot less than there used to be, due to bandwidth considerations I believe,
but still quite a few there.

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[Martin J. Green]

"Sarah Morgan" <mail@NOSPAM.sarahmorgan.me.uk> wrote in message
news:427c0c15_3@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...

> More fencing photos can be found @ http://www.martinjgreen.me.uk/gallery -
> a
> lot less than there used to be, due to bandwidth considerations I believe,
> but still quite a few there.

Indeed. I may readd them, as it was google who was causing the most usage by
indexing them, however they were also using up a GB in space...