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    You...you....you monster!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CvilleFencer
    Wow, what a dickhead I am sometimes. I just realized by rereading over this page how ****ty that sounded! I was apparently having a very jerkish moment DFP! I am really sorry about snapping at you. I don't have any hard feelings towards you at all, I was just having a rough day. Sorry to take it out on you for no good reason.
    chill man, not that big a deal. I didnt take offense at it.
    "I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. And from this side only! The flight of a half-man, half-bird. Dinosaurs nuzzling their young in pastures where strip malls should be. Cookies on dowels. All those moment, lost in time. Gone, like eggs off a hooker's stomach. Time to die" -Phil Ken Sebben

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    Cool. Just hate it when I am a jerk for no good reason, especially to a fellow EPEEist. I would hate for Victor or Mr. Epee to kick me out of the Church!
    Just another lost soul saved by the (hit) First Church of EPEE!

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    You don't get kicked out of Epee', you get excommunicated.
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    Whereupon we free-thinking sabre fencers will gladly welcome you to the fold...

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    Free-thinking? Yeah, right.

    We know all about you and your prejudice against colored fencing.
    There are no damn chickens in my room!
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    Quote Originally Posted by oiuyt
    1st of 18, A1

    2nd of 25, A2

    26th of 69, A4 (D1 NAC)

    35th of 111, A4 (D1 NAC)

    35th of 81, A4 (D1 NAC)

    A05, 41st on senior points standings. Topped.
    Uhh...
    Wow... you rock...
    AND you've made points... twice in your entire life, in the lightest of events.

    btw... you still owe me for the trivia thread
    Take your time. Read carefully.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrbiggs
    Interesting, but there's a few things.

    1. That system will only be useful in ranking fencers that are C or better, or thereabouts, because it only qualifies high-ranking fencers. In other words, a finish at a bad tournament counts for nothing, and a bad finish at a good tournament counts for nothing, either.
    I'm actually okay with that. :)

    Actually it works otherwise, you just don't get very many points. Feel free to post your own system or modifications to mine that you think are more useful.

    2. We shouldn't give extra points for going to more events. Perhaps we can just use the highest number of events a fencer got for a single tournament? Otherwise, the fencers that remembered the highest number of their results would be ranked highest.
    I actually thought of it as a "top X" results thing (which is why I totaled my top 3 results and my top 3 non-national results for this season). I definitely do feel that it should just be a single peak performance measurement. As to how many events should be counted, again, make your own suggestions.

    3. I don't understand the part at the end, what did you multiply the "strength factor" by?
    The number of points awarded for D1 NACs. It's a convenient points chart. Gives a value for every place through 32, then I proposed an extension for 33rd -> 78ish. You can find the points chart on the USFA website. Do a search for something like "points" in their search box and you should find it within a couple of links of one of the top returned pages in the results list.

    -B :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Epee
    Uhh...
    Wow... you rock...
    AND you've made points... twice in your entire life, in the lightest of events.

    btw... you still owe me for the trivia thread
    Herman-
    I don't claim to be the best fencer in the world. Or even on the board. I know of several fencers here who I consider considerably better than I am and who have considerably better results. But I am happy with what I've accomplished, and what I expect to accomplish in the future.

    BTW... you still owe me points in the trivia thread too. How 'bout we just call it even. Don't know what I did that caused you to start being pissy towards me a couple of months ago. Don't really care. I'm willing to leave it at that.

    -B :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by oiuyt
    I'm actually okay with that.

    Actually it works otherwise, you just don't get very many points. Feel free to post your own system or modifications to mine that you think are more useful.



    I actually thought of it as a "top X" results thing (which is why I totaled my top 3 results and my top 3 non-national results for this season). I definitely do feel that it should just be a single peak performance measurement. As to how many events should be counted, again, make your own suggestions.



    The number of points awarded for D1 NACs. It's a convenient points chart. Gives a value for every place through 32, then I proposed an extension for 33rd -> 78ish. You can find the points chart on the USFA website. Do a search for something like "points" in their search box and you should find it within a couple of links of one of the top returned pages in the results list.

    -B

    Awesome, thanks.

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    Winning sectionals yesterday likely makes it onto my top-3 non-national events list. I'll post the FnSF for it in a couple of days once I can see the results (and therefore get accurate counts on ratings of other people that were there).

    -B :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by oiuyt
    Herman-
    I don't claim to be the best fencer in the world. Or even on the board. I know of several fencers here who I consider considerably better than I am and who have considerably better results. But I am happy with what I've accomplished, and what I expect to accomplish in the future.

    BTW... you still owe me points in the trivia thread too. How 'bout we just call it even. Don't know what I did that caused you to start being pissy towards me a couple of months ago. Don't really care. I'm willing to leave it at that.

    -B
    *In more awe of oiuyt than before*
    "I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. And from this side only! The flight of a half-man, half-bird. Dinosaurs nuzzling their young in pastures where strip malls should be. Cookies on dowels. All those moment, lost in time. Gone, like eggs off a hooker's stomach. Time to die" -Phil Ken Sebben

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    Quote Originally Posted by oiuyt
    Winning sectionals yesterday likely makes it onto my top-3 non-national events list. I'll post the FnSF for it in a couple of days once I can see the results (and therefore get accurate counts on ratings of other people that were there).
    From NAS sectionals (MS):
    FnSF = [N/10 + (6(Sr8) + 5(Sr24) + 4(Sr) + 3(A) + 2(B) + C + (D)/2)]/100
    FnSF = [43/10 + 4(1) + 2(8) + 11 + (10)/2)]/100 = .403

    1000 * .403 = 403 points.

    So my top-3 non-national events total is now 854.

    -B :)
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    I'm beginning to suspect that oiuyt is better at sabre than I.....thank God I'm an Epeeist (although I wouldn't doubt that he'd pwn me in that too)....yes..I just say pwn, deal with it.
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    How much do you think a pawnshop would give him for you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inquartata
    How much do you think a pawnshop would give him for you?
    I think they mostly just look up the values of various items in a reference book and then make slight adjustments.... They must have some process for unique items.

    -B :)
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