04-29-2005, 12:47 AM
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#41 | | Senior Member
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| I really couldn't say who would be my match on the board. I have about 2 years sabre experience, but I'm getting better. everyone seems to be more "advanced" ... 
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04-29-2005, 12:50 AM
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#42 | | Senior Member
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| ok, how 'bout we make up a fencing.net fantasy EPEE tournament complete with initial seedings, pool assignments, DE tableau and we vote to decide who wins each DE (since we obviously can't unite for one day to actually fence  ) right down to a winner...  | |
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04-29-2005, 01:03 AM
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#43 | | Senior Member
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Originally Posted by glowstix ok, how 'bout we make up a fencing.net fantasy EPEE tournament complete with initial seedings, pool assignments, DE tableau and we vote to decide who wins each DE (since we obviously can't unite for one day to actually fence ) right down to a winner... | Uh, then it is really just a .net popularity contest. Not much of a tourney there. Now if we compared past results at such and such strength of a tourney, say each fencer posting the results from his 3 best opens this year, it might be a bit more interesting although I have been injured for pretty much this entire year, I think I still have one or two top 8 open tourney finishes. Of course someone with a head for numbers has to agree to crunch them all! PicoJeff, where are you and your cursed graphs when you need them!!! 
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04-29-2005, 01:05 AM
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#44 | | Senior Member
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Originally Posted by CvilleFencer Uh, then it is really just a .net popularity contest. Not much of a tourney there. Now if we compared past results at such and such strength of a tourney, say each fencer posting the results from his 3 best opens this year, it might be a bit more interesting although I have been injured for pretty much this entire year, I think I still have one or two top 8 open tourney finishes. Of course someone with a head for numbers has to agree to crunch them all! PicoJeff, where are you and your cursed graphs when you need them!!! | I could probably do it, but I would use my own methods to determine the strength of a tournament, and how well each result is weighted.
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04-29-2005, 01:26 AM
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#45 | | Senior Member
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| I would be happy to offer some suggestions but as to the actual modeling of the results I am not sure how to proceed. Obviously no two A2 (or whatever) tourneys are going to be exactly the same. An open with 60 fencers is a bit stronger/more difficult than an open with 26 fencers if for no other reason than it requires more stamina to fight through all those bouts so we can't easily say that two results from two A2 tourneys are the same. What if one only had 26 people and the other had 60? What if the one that only had 26 had 6 A's, 10 B's and 10 C's? I am not sure how to handle that part but I am not very familiar with how this sort of things work in other sports. Maybe it would be best just to take the strength of the tourney, an A2 from the above example for lack of anything better? That is where I tend to be at a loss. Let me find my best three finishes this year and toss them up and if someone else (not like Army or Veeco, as that would not be a fair comparison and would just make me sad...) and people can play with the numbers.
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04-29-2005, 01:53 AM
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#46 | | Senior Member
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| We have a lot of fencers come to tourneys in my state from other states and with around 500 fencers I do not know everyone. So if I did not know their rating they got counted as a U fencer. I did not really have a lot to draw from unless I used D and C and under tourneys, most of which I was in the top 4 of. I just have not gotten to fence a lot this year due to injury and illness. I don't really know what to do with this data, but it seems like enough to do something with. So there it is, my suckiness laid bare for all to see and marvel upon!
Tourney 1:
My Finish: 36
Tourney Strength: A2
76 fencers total
11 A
13 B
15 C
9 D
6 E
25 U
Tourney 2:
My Finish: 24th
Tourney Strength: A2
50 fencers
7 A
8 B
13 C
6 D
4 E
12 U
Tourney 3:
My Finish: 6th
Tourney Strength B2
26 fencers
1 A
3 B
7 C
3 D
1 E
10 U
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04-29-2005, 02:06 AM
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#47 | | Senior Member
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| Looks like you kicked at least SOME A-Rated ***, Cville  | |
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04-29-2005, 02:14 AM
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#48 | | Senior Member
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Originally Posted by rmyounis Looks like you kicked at least SOME A-Rated ***, Cville | I wish. I seem to be developing this trend in the last few opens. I have a scary A in my pool. I fence my but off and wind up loosing like 4-5 (usually my only loss, or 1 of 2 at worse). However that lowers the scary A that I had in my pool enough (or gets me high enough on indicators) that I have to fence him in a round that I would normally have a C or so in. And the A is usually pissed and crushes me like 8-15 or something for my insolence! I either need to get better or stop pissing off A's. Or B's for that matter. I have beaten one or two B's but most of the ones in my division spank me pretty bad and I have never taken an A in an actual tourney... Yet! 
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04-29-2005, 02:59 AM
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#49 | | Just Joined
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| I haven't ever shot any of the mentioned weapons but as a rule I'm not to bad a shot with a rifle, not bad with a bow either although its been awhile since I've shot a recurve. As for fencing I've only had 3 Epee lessons so I figure I'm not much of a match for anyone. | |
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04-29-2005, 04:26 AM
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#50 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kentucky
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| If I have to choose a match, I choose jtnation (cause even though I don't think I'm quite as good as him, at least I've fenced him before!) | |
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04-29-2005, 06:06 AM
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#51 | | Senior Member
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| I say at Nationals we grab a couple of empty strips and have a fencing.net tourney. Winner gets bragging rights  | |
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04-29-2005, 10:33 AM
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#52 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2003
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| My strongest finishes-
3rd out of 49 fencers, B2 tournament (chattanooga epee challenge)
5th out of 47 at a B2 tournament (cumberland open)
84th out of 146 at an A4 (div 1 NAC)
C05, 54th on the y-14 points standings. Top that biotch!
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04-29-2005, 10:37 AM
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#53 | | Senior Member
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Originally Posted by glowstix how 'bout noodle!?? or DFP. | nah, rebelfencer is a notch on the totem pole above me. He's beat me in a DE before by a fairly large margin.
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04-29-2005, 10:37 AM
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#54 | | the dark one
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Originally Posted by Nightrider I haven't ever shot any of the mentioned weapons but as a rule I'm not to bad a shot with a rifle, not bad with a bow either although its been awhile since I've shot a recurve. As for fencing I've only had 3 Epee lessons so I figure I'm not much of a match for anyone. | Ladies and gentlemen, I think I have found my match. I may have had a lot more lessons, but that doesn't mean I've actually got any skill or speed.
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04-29-2005, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by D+F+P=Hadouken! My strongest finishes-
3rd out of 49 fencers, B2 tournament (chattanooga epee challenge)
5th out of 47 at a B2 tournament (cumberland open)
84th out of 146 at an A4 (div 1 NAC)
C05, 54th on the y-14 points standings. Top that biotch! | What were the strengths of those tourneys DFP? Just saying the results is not horribly helpful without knowing the strength of the competitions (well, except for the NAC since we can look that up). Do you have or could you come up with the number of rated fencers and what their rating was for these tourneys? Oh, and I had to beat or finish higher than the number 11 spot on the Y-14 points list in most of my tourneys so far this year so don't get to puffed up over the kiddy points biotch! 
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04-29-2005, 12:06 PM
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#56 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: South Carolina über Alles
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| Guess I'll go ahead with my top 3:
Chattanooga Epee' Challenge: 2nd out of 49
B2 Tournament:
2 Bs
4 Cs
6 Ds
5 Es
32 Us
Crescent City Open: 10th out of 77
A2 Tournament:
12 As
7 Bs
9 Cs
8 Ds
8 Es
25 Us
Tennessee Divisionals: 1st out of 13
E1 Tournament:
4 Cs
X Ds
Y Us
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04-29-2005, 12:09 PM
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#57 | | Fencing Expert
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Originally Posted by D+F+P=Hadouken! My strongest finishes-
3rd out of 49 fencers, B2 tournament (chattanooga epee challenge)
5th out of 47 at a B2 tournament (cumberland open)
84th out of 146 at an A4 (div 1 NAC)
C05, 54th on the y-14 points standings. Top that biotch! :p | 1st of 18, A1
2nd of 25, A2
26th of 69, A4 (D1 NAC)
35th of 111, A4 (D1 NAC)
35th of 81, A4 (D1 NAC)
A05, 41st on senior points standings. Topped. :p
-B :)
*who knows that there are several people here that can top that*
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04-29-2005, 12:10 PM
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#58 | | Senior Member
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| Well, I've only been to one tournament since returning to fencing (got one this weekend, though!). I'd post the results, but someone first needs to tell me how to figure out from www.usfencing.com what my opponents' rankings were | |
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04-29-2005, 12:20 PM
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#59 | | Senior Member
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| If the tournament is on askfred then the results should show their ratings.
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04-29-2005, 12:22 PM
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#60 | | Fencing Expert
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| The organizers at the event should have the list. There isn't a national database (on usfencing.org or otherwise). AskFred is decent for people in it, but has disclaimers about how the ratings aren't all accurate (definitely true).
-B :)
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