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Old 04-28-2005, 01:41 AM   #61
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blanket statements are dangerous what you mean is according to YOUR interpretation of the Christian faith, what is the right thing to do.
True...however, the matters currently at hand are relatively clear in the Bible.

And, of course, there is always room for discussion. If I correct a fellow Christian, I'm going to have scripture and such to back up my position. They may disagree with me. If so, then I intend to discuss the matter with them until either one of us changes our position, or we are forced to agree to disagree (in the cases where multiple interpretations could be seen).
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Gav, any chance you could clean up a bit?
Oh it's just RL stealing other people's text from the internet...
that last tirade came from here: http://www.russia.com/forums/showthr...?threadid=3291

Such a loser.
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Oh it's just RL stealing other people's text from the internet...
that last tirade came from here: http://www.russia.com/forums/showthr...?threadid=3291

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funny how you can't stand what i do. I and others on this board laugh how hard you have to work after every post I make. We think you need to work harder still.
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And there again with your delusions of us having to "work hard"...while we just laugh at you having to go around and find things to copy.
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And there again with your delusions of us having to "work hard"...while we just laugh at you having to go around and find things to copy.
Not much coming from a guy who can't admit that Jesus was gay and and blind faith is no faith.
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Gav, any chance you could clean up a bit?
You should really PM me to ask for stuff like this - otherwise I may miss the request.

I've just read this thread and I can't believe some of the complete [and utter] rubbish I've read.

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Once again, I will state this: Stay out of other people's relationships. Why? "Judge not, lest ye be judged." Thou some would bring in the thought that we should judge righteously, it is often times not a righteous judgement, but one done in fear & pride. Those are sins in & of themselves, according to MY Bible. Some misplace their own ideals onto the people they alledge to care for, & don't actually listen to others to find out how they truly feel. They press the issue, & damage relationships, while balking at the idea of someone potentially doing it to them. Further Biblical study, along with prayer, should come, instead of rash comments meant to break people apart. Also, if said couple does not wish to part, the party doing the pressuring should "dust off his (or her) feet" & let it go. After all, one could be handling such a situation the WRONG WAY, replacing love & respect for fear & mistrust. That is a shame.
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Soldier...
You made a comment about "old school hardcore Catholics" a while back and I am curious as a result of experiences when my wife and I were engaged: Is there any other kind of Catholic? It's been my experience that the RCC does not accept other forms of Christianity as legitimate or equivalent, despite what individual priests may feel.

Now, before anyone gets riled I was raised Roman Catholic and did my time in Catholic grade school. My sticking point is this: My wife was raised Methodist, and when the Catholic priest who would've married us heard that he became quite incensed and told us bluntly that if we wanted an interfaith wedding we'd have to both sign a document swearing to raise our children as Roman Catholics.
Yes, he said interfaith like a curse. No, we didn't get married RCC. We went over to the Methodists to get hitched.
Two friends of ours, one catholic and one not, had the same problem. He converted so that she could have the Catholic wedding she wanted.

As far as interfaith relationships... What it boils down to, IMO, is respect for the other person's beliefs and not a blind adherence to dogma. If you can find common ground (and when you look at it, the core of many faiths is "Be nice to each other"), the specifics don't matter...unless you prefer the gourd to the shoe. Then we may have issues.
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And there again with your delusions of us having to "work hard"...while we just laugh at you having to go around and find things to copy.
Oh Jeeps if it were "work hard" it would be a fun and challenging exercise. Instead all it takes is for me to see a post and know he's off swiping text again! ha ha, three seconds later I can find the original. Come'on buddy, give me something I can work with! Hey, try actually having something relevant to post. Or is that just way out of your league?
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Not much coming from a guy who can't admit that Jesus was gay and and blind faith is no faith.
Must be getting desperate for material ... keeps repeating old posts. Do you have anythiing original? Do you have the same problem with Muslims or did someone burn too many crosses in your front yard?
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OI!

Keep the thread decent. If you want flame wars take it elsewhere - I hear FencingSucks is nice this time of year.
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Gav, any chance you could clean up a bit?
Hmm...

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Hey someone says something that we don't like about Christianity....

Bzzz-Bzzz-Schnapp!!!

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I KNOW LET'S CALL FOR CENSORSHIP!!!!
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I can't be the only one who saw that coming.
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Once again, I will state this: Stay out of other people's relationships. Why? "Judge not, lest ye be judged." Thou some would bring in the thought that we should judge righteously, it is often times not a righteous judgement, but one done in fear & pride. Those are sins in & of themselves, according to MY Bible. Some misplace their own ideals onto the people they alledge to care for, & don't actually listen to others to find out how they truly feel. They press the issue, & damage relationships, while balking at the idea of someone potentially doing it to them. Further Biblical study, along with prayer, should come, instead of rash comments meant to break people apart. Also, if said couple does not wish to part, the party doing the pressuring should "dust off his (or her) feet" & let it go. After all, one could be handling such a situation the WRONG WAY, replacing love & respect for fear & mistrust. That is a shame.
Judge not lest ye be judged...indeed, I'm not saying to judge at all. Only loving correction where wrong is perceived, and then discussion (if need be) to figure out who's in error.
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You made a comment about "old school hardcore Catholics" a while back and I am curious as a result of experiences when my wife and I were engaged: Is there any other kind of Catholic? It's been my experience that the RCC does not accept other forms of Christianity as legitimate or equivalent, despite what individual priests may feel.

Now, before anyone gets riled I was raised Roman Catholic and did my time in Catholic grade school. My sticking point is this: My wife was raised Methodist, and when the Catholic priest who would've married us heard that he became quite incensed and told us bluntly that if we wanted an interfaith wedding we'd have to both sign a document swearing to raise our children as Roman Catholics.
Yes, he said interfaith like a curse. No, we didn't get married RCC. We went over to the Methodists to get hitched.
Two friends of ours, one catholic and one not, had the same problem. He converted so that she could have the Catholic wedding she wanted.

As far as interfaith relationships... What it boils down to, IMO, is respect for the other person's beliefs and not a blind adherence to dogma. If you can find common ground (and when you look at it, the core of many faiths is "Be nice to each other"), the specifics don't matter...unless you prefer the gourd to the shoe. Then we may have issues.
Yes, I know that Catholics don't accept other forms of Christianity; I've just been speaking from my perspective (because I very much disagree with Catholics).

And yes, there is another kind. You see, there are what I call nominal Christians - people who call themselves Christian, but their faith really doesn't go any deeper than the label. And there are people who may be extremely Christian, but are nominal Catholics - their adherence to Catholic dogma really doesn't go any deeper than the label "Catholic". My friend's fiance, whom I was referring to earlier, is a solid Christian but a nominal Catholic. His mother, unfortunately, is a nominal Christian, but a hard-core Catholic.
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Soldier,

I like how God seperates into redeemed and unredeemed, but you took the extra burden to create new catetories for him.

Is this a distinction that you should really be making?
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