| Im not sure about the old old shoes, but I do know about the Dart's. The Original Dartagnan's were superb, my favorite shoes Ive ever worn in my life, Fencing or otherwise. I believe Uhlmann still has them, well they do on their website at least.
-Tre'
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Ref-"Pool 1: Molly"
Me-"It's Molloy, with an OY"
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