07-13-2005, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by CvilleFencer So I am confused by this saying. It sounds pretty cool, but I was hoping you could clear something up for me. Are you saying that she is a brutal savage who kills and eats her own game for the simple joy of sinking teeth into warm flesh or are you saying that she is hard like woodpecker lips, carries a chainsaw and gets respect? Either way, both are kind of cool.
After my long absence from this thread I am in the process of catching up on my epee rep communion by the way! Great to see the thread is still going. I am pretty sure this thread is a f.net record for the longest continual thread ever! Good job to us!  | She's referring to the fact that I hunt on occasion and spend my vacations in the wilderness. Welcome back Cville, we missed you!
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07-13-2005, 04:05 PM
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#1082 | | the dark one
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Originally Posted by CvilleFencer Are you saying that she is a brutal savage who kills and eats her own game for the simple joy of sinking teeth into warm flesh or are you saying that she is hard like woodpecker lips, carries a chainsaw and gets respect? | A bit of both, I believe (though I'm going on intuition with the chainsaw and woodpecker lips...). Not that there's anything wrong with that!
Au contraire, I have a lot of respect for people who take responsibility for their eating habits, and are at peace with the killing/eating cycle. There's a connection there that I wish I could share. But I'm squeamish - I have trouble sticking a lobster in a pot, but that's me. I say a little blessing over each crustacean before plopping him into the drink.
As for the chainsaw thing, you'll have to ask her. I picture her more with a big-a$$ axe in her hand. Maybe grinding away at the whetstone like the Green Knight while Gawain watches and waits...
Oh, yeah, and welcome back. 
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07-13-2005, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by swordwench As for the chainsaw thing, you'll have to ask her. I picture her more with a big-a$$ axe in her hand. Maybe grinding away at the whetstone like the Green Knight while Gawain watches and waits...
Oh, yeah, and welcome back.  | LOL! You know me so well s'wench! I am more of an axe girl rather than chainsaw girl.... I love spending hours chopping wood... very therapeutic and relaxing. Split most logs in one swing!
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07-13-2005, 04:38 PM
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| I thought I was the only one who found chopping wood to be both a great and fun form of exercise as well as a somewhat meditative activity! Clearing entire swaths of land goes a bit against my earth friendly policy but when I have the chance I love to gather up deadfall and make a nice big stack of firewood. Unfortunately I rarely get to enjoy that yummy fire for myself as I live in the city now and I don't have a fireplace or a source of trees handy.
Thankfully Danielle’s dad lives up in the mountains out in Monterey. I am sure he thinks I am odd in that on visits I like to go off into the woods to drag back logs to cut up and insist on using an axe and not a chainsaw to do it. That’s okay, as long as he thinks I am strange AND good with and axe I think it helps keep him civil!
The “carries a chainsaw and get’s respect” and “hard like woodpecker lips” were both very popular phrases back when I was in the military. When you said “eats her own kill” I guess I was thinking more in an eats the hearts of her enemies sort of way. I did not know you meant it literally! Just out of curiosity what do you hunt with Fencergrl? I love my shooting sports but I always felt that track hunting with a bow was much more challenging and in balance. I tend to be rather disdainful of the hunters that ride into the woods on their ATV’s, climb a tree stand with their coolers and heaters and wait in a baited area to make a “kill”. Oh, and if it has adjustable sights, laser mounts or is fired with a release it IS NOT a bow to me. I guess I am just a bit old fashioned in this respect… No offense intended if you prefer the more modern methods, I just won’t invite you along on a hunt anytime soon! 
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07-13-2005, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by CvilleFencer The “carries a chainsaw and get’s respect” and “hard like woodpecker lips” were both very popular phrases back when I was in the military. When you said “eats her own kill” I guess I was thinking more in an eats the hearts of her enemies sort of way. I did not know you meant it literally! Just out of curiosity what do you hunt with Fencergrl? I love my shooting sports but I always felt that track hunting with a bow was much more challenging and in balance. I tend to be rather disdainful of the hunters that ride into the woods on their ATV’s, climb a tree stand with their coolers and heaters and wait in a baited area to make a “kill”. Oh, and if it has adjustable sights, laser mounts or is fired with a release it IS NOT a bow to me. I guess I am just a bit old fashioned in this respect… No offense intended if you prefer the more modern methods, I just won’t invite you along on a hunt anytime soon!  | I would like to get into bow hunting actually. I plan to take it up when we get our place in the country. It would be nice to take the odd deer off of the back 40.... nice and quiet.
My husband's in a wheelchair, so we do tend to use ATV's or he shoots from our truck (he's got a special licence). He's a good shot, and we usually get the animal to drop close by and winch it in. This makes it easier for me 'cause guess who gets to deal with the animal??? I rather not have to go to far into the bush tracking a bleeding animal on my own.... so far I've been lucky. We generally hunt moose, elk, deer and black bear.
My favourite hunting is taking wild birds with my 22 w/sights (no scope) and my dog. Again therapeutic and simple (and not up half the night gutting and skinning).
What about you?
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07-13-2005, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Goofy OOOOOOOO- something tells me Inquartata's gonna be drawn to THIS post like a shark to blood in the water...... |
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07-13-2005, 05:17 PM
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#1087 | | the dark one
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Originally Posted by Inquartata Just to confound you all....no.  | Dudududududududu... (sung to the theme song from "Jaws") SNAP!
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07-13-2005, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by swordwench people who take responsibility for their eating habits, and are at peace with the killing/eating cycle. | That's something I always find amusing. When people want to try and argue that hunting is "wrong". Yet the same people will happily buy meat from the supermarket.
If you chose to eat meat, then something's got to die. It's just that simple. We would eat a lot less meat if we all had to kill our own.
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07-13-2005, 05:32 PM
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#1089 | | the dark one
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| I get the majority of my meat from my local butcher. (I'm going to run away with him someday, his stuff is sooooo good.) I come from a long line of hunters and fishermen, so I'm not opposed to hunting, I just don't want to do it myself. I just like to take my bow and shoot at inanimate objects. Preferably ones that don't destroy my arrows!
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07-13-2005, 05:38 PM
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| I know you're no opposed, sorry if it sounded different. You have a good attitude and I respect your position, there is little pleasure in killing things and processing them into food.
I was commenting on coming across people who's logic baffles me when it comes to this topic.
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07-13-2005, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Fencergrl I would like to get into bow hunting actually. I plan to take it up when we get our place in the country. It would be nice to take the odd deer off of the back 40.... nice and quiet. | I always have felt that there is much more sport, skill and zen involved in bow hunting (and not from a tree stand). Not only do you have to find the animal, observe it, find a way to get much closer to it, and then get a clean release/hit. Then you have to find the criter and get it back to camp, which goes a long way towards discouraging the "ah, what the hell I might as well pop this one while I am here" attitdue that I see in a lot of the back country hunter types around here. I think that this forces you to be much more aware of the forest, the way things work, the way the animal behaves, weather changes, etc. It just seems more pure to me in some odd quasi-zen sort of way. Not to say I don't pack a sidearm just in case I run into something faster/meaner than me out there.
[quote]My husband's in a wheelchair, so we do tend to use ATV's or he shoots from our truck (he's got a special licence). He's a good shot, and we usually get the animal to drop close by and winch it in. [/qoute] Okay, in an situation like yours I understand blind/stand hunting. It is more the attitude of "I want to kill something and hunting makes me feel manly but I don't want to work for it or use any skill" attitude that gets my blood boiling. I very much agree that if we all had to hunt our own not only would we all be healtheir, we would eat much less meet. Of course people in big cities would most likely starve... I actually have not been actual hunting with the intent to take down game in quite a while. The only reel hunting I have done in the past 10 years of so was wild boar hunting when I was in Texas. In that case I looked at it more like pest/threat removal than sport hunting as boar will tear up cattle or a person pretty bad given half a chance and they don't have much in the way of natural predators left down there. There was a point in time some farmers/ranchers were offering bounties on boar taken on their property and the few times I went out with some friends clearing ranch property of boar was my last real hunting trip. I had a lot of fun doing that looking back on it, and I think boar is probably what I would go after again if Danielle ever lets me go out with the intent to take down cute furry little critters again.
I most definetly did not take them with a bow either. Rather funny story about my first time hunting boar (with a three shot bolt action 12 guage turkey gun) that I would be happy to share in something other than a public forum if we ever meet. Needless to say the next time I went out boar hunting it was with a scoped G3 with a PSG 1 trigger group, 20 round mags and a heavy barrel...
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07-13-2005, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by swordwench I get the majority of my meat from my local butcher. (I'm going to run away with him someday, his stuff is sooooo good.) | Has a good sausage, does he?
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07-13-2005, 05:51 PM
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| Oh my god, could it get any better...? A Hunting Wench, starlight, and woodsmoke...and every stick's an epee! All for a "what if...", all on the chance that it just might.... Thank you, Ladies! 
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07-13-2005, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by howtobrew Has a good sausage, does he? | You have noooooo idea... heh heh heh. Hey, you are worse than Fencergrl! I expected loftier things from you!
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07-13-2005, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by geezer Oh my god, could it get any better...? A Hunting Wench, starlight, and woodsmoke...and every stick's an epee! All for a "what if...", all on the chance that it just might.... Thank you, Ladies!  | Starry, starry night... hey, watch that ear! Good thing it's an epee, not a sabre, or you'd have lost it! Oops. Too late.
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07-13-2005, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by CvilleFencer I always have felt that there is much more sport, skill and zen involved in bow hunting (and not from a tree stand). Not only do you have to find the animal, observe it, find a way to get much closer to it, and then get a clean release/hit. ... | I agree with you. People in the country have better opportunities to follow the behaviour of the animals in their area. I can’t wait until I am in a situation where I can live my life that way.
Like you, I’m not a big fan of a lot of modern hunting gadgets to make up for lack of skill.
However, when you live in the city, you have 2 weeks to drive to your spot, figure out the lay of the land, find your animal, process it, and get back home, so you can put on a suit and tie and go back to work Monday morning. If you return to the same spot year after year, you get a sense of where the game is; otherwise it’s mainly luck and logic.
You have to plan your trips, get your licences gear etc... Often it just becomes a winter camping trip... that's good too.
Often we won't take an animal if it's too early in the trip, because we don't want to go home. Sometimes you’re so taken by how majestic the animal is you don’t pull the trigger.
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07-13-2005, 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by geezer Oh my god, could it get any better...? A Hunting Wench, starlight, and woodsmoke...and every stick's an epee! All for a "what if...", all on the chance that it just might.... Thank you, Ladies!  | It doesn't get any better!
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07-13-2005, 06:03 PM
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| Except for that "epee" part. 
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07-13-2005, 06:05 PM
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| Your stick can be a sabre and mine can be an epee!
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