Epeeists only

[Alain]

Gav,

You are a moderator, so we hold you to a higher standard.

To join the brotherhood, you must show yourself to be a leader.

You must show the others how to share and support each other.

I've seen him at competitions! Admittedly, I don't think I've seen Gav fence, BUT whenever I've seen him with a weapon in his hand it's always been an épée...

[Mr Epee]

P.S. Londominium - That is such a great post, that I hate to see it wasted here. (Where only epeeists are supposed to be). It ought to be moved to the main fencing forum. Just for information.

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Don't forget the secondary mission of this thread which is to push achilleus all the way to the top of the point list. Things are better with an epee leader.

Here's a good post of his complaining about scrubs not taking fencing seriously. achilleus thread you can follow that link and rep him up.
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One of my favorite things about being an epeeist is that I belong to a group who are the best at identifying systemic problems, and then exploiting them.

In this example, rep points serve no real purpose, but people do seem to care about them... so why not exploit them for our own purposes?

[epee1]

Where's mine?

where's mine what??

[Mr Epee]

I've seen him at competitions! Admittedly, I don't think I've seen Gav fence, BUT whenever I've seen him with a weapon in his hand it's always been an épée...

I just don't know how I feel about supporting an authority figure (even a minor one) in a thread that is, more or less, supporting a coup d'état of sorts.

If you vouch for him as an epeeist, and he awards his tribute (rep points to the rest of the thread participants) then I guess he's in.

Funny how this is turning a little Animal Farm.

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Nevermind I found the following
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I was chatting to an FIE ref' a wee bit back. He was commenting on how low-level Foil, Epee and Sabre are poorly presided.

He was saying that high level Epee could be extremely difficult because it was 3 dimensional, that is the fencers utilised the full dimensions of the piste and was very dynamic. It was this that made it hard to ref'. You always had to run around so that you could ensure that you could see all of the action extremely clearly else you started to get into trouble - additionally because, "Epeeists KNOW the rules, it is their only recourse when a hit goes against them." Foil and Sabre, due to the conventions present a different challenge.

The point I am making is that people often underestimate Epee in terms of difficulty. If you find yourself in a pool with poor Epeeists your standard of reffing will be poor - you should probably do as much as reffing as possible when you are not on the piste if you are unhappy with those around you. I find it helpful to ask politely, but firmly, to anyone who I think is this imcompetent in the pools to get someone else to ref'.

I don't have to do it often mind.

He's in

[keith]

Funny how this is turning a little Animal Farm.

Given Mr epee's obsession with the 'march' I denounce him as a collaborator of foilists and a spreader of RoW.

*rummages for ice pick*

[epee1]

I just don't know how I feel about supporting an authority figure (even a minor one) in a thread that is, more or less, supporting a coup d'état of sorts.

If you vouch for him as an epeeist, and he awards his tribute (rep points to the rest of the thread participants) then I guess he's in.

Funny how this is turning a little Animal Farm.

If we start eating our young will Inq be first on the menu?

[Inquartata]

If we start eating our young will Inq be first on the menu?

No, only if you start eating your OLD!

[Mr Epee]

If we start eating our young will Inq be first on the menu?

If you like, brother, but he is a little old and tasteless for my palate.

[esskreemr]

it looked like it was heading towards "Lord of the Flies"...

[Victor]

Given Mr epee's obsession with the 'march' I denounce him as a collaborator of foilists and a spreader of RoW.

Good point. Bummer.

I've been sharing points with Mr. E because even though he is horrendously horribly totally out of wack on the entire "marching" issue ... Well, he is an epeeist. And no matter how screwed up an epeeist is, by comparison he's got to have more common sense than the other weapon-whackers.

Or so I hope. His recent angry comments in this thread toward Inq haven't spoken well to the deep and abiding wisdom of a True Epeeist.

[Mr Epee]

Firstly - I have sinned against the group by taunting a lesser creature, instead of encouraging it to join us on the path of truth. I should be grateful for their boldness when the reveal their hidden desire to join us, and thankful that they are willing to continue bumping this thread and increasing our visability.

Secondly, with regards to my helping the foilists out with their little problems... I will simply defer to the lessons taught by Pastor Niemoller (Brother Epeeist)



First they came for the Saber fencers, and I didn't speak out - because I was not a Sabreur. Then they came for the Foil fencers, and I did not speak out -because I was not a Foilist. Then they came for the weapon fixers, and I did not speak out -because I was not an Amourer. Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak for me! -Pastor Niemoller (Brother Epeeist)

[scrapinpeg]

I liked it better when we were quietly content with simply being aware of our superiority. All this bragging has a taste of "doth protest too much" about it, to me, and is more worthy of our ROW brethren.

[esskreemr]

Please continue with the delusion that choosing a "weapon" that is named after a bathroom break is the enlightened choice.

[howtobrew]

I talked one of my foilist friends into fencing epee last week. Even before the end of the bout she was surprised and commenting at how heavy the epee was compared to her foil. I've never heard that one before.

Really? Happens to me all the time. I handed my weapon to a woman at the club the other night and she exclaimed over the weight and feel of it...

But you know, you reminded of another actual event that actually had double entendre all over it, as opposed to the one above (which was just last week but innocent).
I had just arrived at the club and only a couple people were there, and as I was unpacking my bag, a woman looked over at me and asked, "What...How big is that?"
I looked up and said, "Excuse me?" (not quite believing what I thought I heard)
She replied, "What weapon do you have?"
"Oh. Epee"
"Oh Good!"
Her friend laughed, and said,"That sounded pretty strange..."
And the first woman replied, "Well I couldn't see how long it was and I thought it might be a foil, but it's not, so now I will have more people to fence..."
At which point I laughed and said, "Well that's good, I would hate to have a lady disappointed in the size of my weapon...." And we all laughed.
True story. Setups for great lines like that just don't happen very often.

[fencerX]

I am a true believer. I fence epee.

An earlier post demonstrating my bona fides:

http://www.fencing101.com/vb/showthr...028#post166028

[glowstix]

Obviously, you need to get a better class of friend...no, but wait, you're an epeeist so you probably can't...

the sad thing is that you're probably right!?!??!!

[Victor]

Tawdry jokes aside, I've also picked up surprise from people trying an epee for the first time after foil. I have to convince them their muscles will quickly adapt to the teeeeeensy bit of added weight.

[Mr Epee]

It takes a big hammer to drive a big nail!

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I keep getting the following msg

You have given out too much Reputation in the last 24 hours, try again later.

I'm an epee fencer... I can wait...

[Elendae]

Your COUCH tells you to do things??? Wow, that must be freaky when you're channel surfing.

Yeah.. the couch is pretty scary... good thing I'm getting rid of it.

But my coach also tells me to use the force...

[Westley]

Epee is all about a stylized grace. It doesn't require speed in the same sense as the other weapons, and when a newb- or a less intelligent veteran- tries to move with such spped, it typically lowers their reaction time- not only is their the threat of overextending or the obvious threat of inertia getting in the way of moving said blade in the direction you want it, but you focus to much on getting it to that one place, and you kind of blind yourself from all else. Not only that, but oftentimes, especially with newbs, that when they focus on moving the blade fast at an opponent it's not always at an opportune time and their eyes follow their own blade instead of the other persons. The trick is to know yourself and your weapon well enough that you are able to easily watch your opponents sword, move their, and stop it. You do not need to see your own blade because you know where it is, because you are in control of it. You continue until there is an opening, and you attack. And it works best if you block at the base of the opponents weapon, not the top. Attack as if your epee is a knife, and you are far less likely to miss. yeah. I don't lose often. I don't enter tournaments because I don't want the attention.